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All-Time Post of Forever (#1)
NJ49er
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September 7, 2011 at 7:40 pm (Edit)
I see this Season starting with lots of motion and ground attack.
Our OL is going to take time to adjust to the new system, however, a WCO should help them once Alex and the WRs get into the necessary rhythm.
Game 1, lots of Gore and Hunter, 9ers win a close one. I do expect Harbaugh to take some deep shots though, VD and Braylon will be a nice duo.
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2026 Season
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PRESEASON
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1 Tenn @ SF Thu 08/13 · 6:00 PM
2 SF @ LAC Thu 08/20 · 7:00 PM
3 SF @ Vegas Thu 08/27 · 5:00 PM
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REGULAR SEASON
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1 SF @ LAR Thu 09/10 · 5:35 PM
(Australia)
2 Mia @ SF· Sun 09/20 · 1:25 PM
3 AZ @ SF · Sun 09/27 · 1:05 PM
4 Den @ SF Sun 10/04 · 1:25 PM
5 SF @ Sea Sun 10/11 · 1:25 PM
6 Wash @ SF Mon 10/19 · 5:15 PM
7 SF @ Atl Sun 10/25 · 10:00 AM
8 BYE
9 Vegas @ SF Sun 11/08 · 1:05 PM
10 SF @ Dak· Sun 11/15 · 1:25 PM
11 Minn @ SF Sun 11/22 · 5:20 PM
12 Sea @ SF Sun 11/29 · 1:25 PM
13 SF @ NYG Sun 12/06 · 10:00 AM
14 LAR @ SF Sun 12/13 · 1:25 PM
15 SF @ LAC Thu 12/17 · 5:15 PM
16 SF @ KC· Sun 12/27 · 1:25 PM
17 Phi @ SF Sun 01/03 · 5:20 PM
18 SF @ AZ · TBD
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2026 Draft
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Round 2-33 D Stribling WR Ole Mss
Round 3-70 R Height DE Texas Tech
Round 3-90 K Black RB Indy
Round 4-107 G Halton DT Okla
Round 4-127 C Willis G Wash
Round 4 -139 E Prysock CB Wash
Round 5-154 J Dugger LB La
Round 5-179 E Cruz OT Kan
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2025 Schedule
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13 - 6
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1 – 9/7 SF 17 - Sea 13
2 – 9/14 SF 26 - NO 21
3 – 9/21 SF 16 - AZ 15
4 – 9/28 Jax 26 - SF 21
5 – 10/2 SF 26 - LA 23
6 – 10-12 TB 30 - SF 19
7 – 10/19 SF 20 - Atl 10
8 – 10/26 Hou 26 - SF 15
9 – 11/2 SF 34 - NYG 24
10 – 11/9 Rams 42 - SF 26
11 – 11/16 SF 41 - AZ 22
12 – 11/24 SF 20 - Carol 9
13 – 11/30 SF 26 - Cle 8
14 – 12/7 - BYE
15 – SF 37 - Tenn 24
16 –SF 48 - Indy 27
17 – 12/28 SF 42 - Chi 38
18 – 1/4 Sea 13 - SF 3
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19 - SF 23 - Philly 19
20 - Sea 110 - SF -6
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2025 Draft
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1-Mykel Williams DE - GA
2-Alfred Collins DT - TX
3-Nick Martin - LB OK ST
3-Upton Stout - CB WKY
4-CJ West - DT Indy
4-Jordan Watkins - WR Miss
5-Jordan James - RB Ore
5-Marques Sigle - S K State
7-Kurtis Rourke - QB Indy
7-Conner Colby OL Iowa
7-Junior Bergen - WR Mt
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UDFAs
LB Stone Blanton, Mississippi State
RB Corey Kiner, Cincinnati
OL Drew Moss, Colorado
WR Isaiah Neyor, Nebraska
CB Jakob Robinson, BYU
DL Sebastian Valdez, Washington
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Regular Season
6-11
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1 · SF 32 - NYJ 19
2 · Minn 23 - SF 17
3 · LA 27 - SF 24
4 · SF 30 - NE 13
5 · AZ 24 - SF 23
6 · SF 36 - Sea 24
7 · KC 28 - SF 18
8 · SF 30 - Dal 24
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WEEK 9 BYE
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10 · SF 23 - TB 20
11 · Sea 20 - SF 17
12 · GB 38 - SF 10
13 · Buff 35 - SF 10
14 · SF 38 - Chi 13
15 · LAR 12 - SF sux
16 · Miami 29 - SF 17
17 · Deet 40 - SF 34
18 · AZ 47 - SF 24
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2024 Draft
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- 1 (31) Rickey Persall WR, Fla
- 2 (64) R Green CB, Fl St
- 3 (86) Dom Puni OL, Kan
- 4 (124) Mustapha, S Wak For
- 4 (129) RB Guerendo, L'ville
- 4 (135) WR Cowing, AZ
- 6 (215) G J Kingston, USC
- 7 (251) LB Bethune, Fl St
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UDFA
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Cody Schrader, RB, Mo
Drake Nugent, C, Mich
Evan Anderson, DL, FAU
Mason Pline, TE, Furman
Tanner Mordecai, QB, Wis
Terique Owens, WR, Miss St
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2023 Schedule
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14-6
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1 - SF 30 - Pitts 7
2 - SF 30 - LAR 23
3 – SF 30 - NYG 12
4 – SF 35 - AZ 16
5 – SF 42 - Dal 10 - fuck yeah!
6 – Cleve 19 - SF 17 - fuck no!
7 – Minn 22 - SF 17 *gulp*
8 – Cincy 31 - SF 17 *freefallin'*
9 – BYE
10 – SF 34 - Jax 3 boooooom!
11 – SF 27 - TB 14 boom
12 – SF 31 - Sea 13 - fuck Pete!
13 – SF 42 - Philly 19 - FUCK YES!
14 – SF 28 - Sea 16 - SQUALK!
15 – SF 45 - AZ 29 - Tweet! BOOM!
16 – Balt 33 - SF 19 - Thuuuuud!!
17 – SF 27 - Wash 10
18 – LA 21 - SF 20
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PLAYOFFS
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SF 21 - GB 17 @ SF - Squeeeeeek!
SF 34 - Deet 31 0ooheartattack!
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SUPER BOWL!!!!!!!
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Fuck
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2023 Draft Picks
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3: 87-S Ji’Ayir Brown, Penn St
3: 99-K Jake Moody, Mich
3: 101-TE Cameron Latu, Ala
5: 155-CB Darrell Luter Jr., S Ala
5: 173-DL Robert Beal Jr., Ga
6: 216-LB Dee Winters, TCU
7: 247-TE Brayden Willis, Okla
7: 253-WR Ronnie Bell, Mich
7: 255-LB Jalen Graham, Purdue
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49ers 2022 Season
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All games Pacific time
Home games in bold
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15-5
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1 Chi 19 - SF 10
2 SF 27 - Sea 7
3 Den 11 - SF 10
4 SF 24 - LA 9
5 SF 37 - Carol 15
6 Atl 28 - SF 14
7 KC 44 - SF 23
8 SF 31 - LA 14
9 - BYE -
10 SF 22 - SD 16
11 SF 38 - AZ 10
12 SF 13 - NO 0
13 SF 33 - Miami 17
14 SF 35 - TB 7
15 SF 21 - Sea 13
16 SF 37 - Wash 20
17 SF 37 - LV 34
18 SF 38 - AZ 13
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Playoffs
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SF 41 - Sea 23
SF 19 - Dall 12
Fuck the Eagles
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2022 Draft
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- 2-61 DL Drake Jackson, USC
- 3-93 RB Tyrion Davis-Price, LSU
- 3-105 WR Danny Gray, SMU
- 4-134 OL Spencer Burford, UTSA
- 5-172 CB Samuel Womack, Toledo
- 5-187 OL Nick Zakelj, Fordham
- 6-220- DL Kalia Davis, UCF
- 6-221 DB Tariq Castro-Fields, Penn State
- 7-262 QB Brock Purdy, Iowa State
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12-8
1: SF 41 – Det 33
2: SF 17 – Phi 11
3: GB 30- SF 28
4: Sea 28 – SF 21
5: AZ 17 – SF 10
6: Bye
7: Indy 30 – SF 18
8: SF 33 – Chi 22
9: AZ 31 – SF 17
10: SF 31 – LA 10
11: SF 30 – Jax 10
12: SF 34 – Minn 26
13: Sea 30 – SF 23
14: SF 26 – Cincy 23
15: SF 31 – Atl 13
16: Tenn 20 – SF 17
17: SF 23 – Hou 7
18: SF 27 – LAR 24
PLAYOFFS
SF 23 – Dal 17
SF 13 – GB 10
NFC Championship Game
LA 20 – SF 17
Fuck this
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7 picks
- Round 1, pick 3 – Trey Lance, QB, North Dakota State
- R 2, 48 (from LV) – Aaron Banks, G, Notre Dame
- R 3, 88 (from LAR) – Trey Sermon, RB, Ohio St
- R 3, 102 – Ambry Thomas, CB, Michigan
- R 5, 155 – Jaylon Moore, OG, Western Michigan
- R 5, 172 – Deommodore Lenoir, CB, Oregon
- R 5, 180 – Talanoa Hufanga, S, USC
- R 6, 194 – Elijah Mitchell, RB, Louisiana
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6 – 10
1 AZ 24 – SF 20
2 SF 31 – NYJ 13
3 SF 36 – NYG 9
4 Philly 25 – SF 20
5 Miami 43 – SF 17
6 SF 24 – LAR 16
7 SF 33 – NE 6
8 Sea 37 – SF 27
9 GB 34 – SF 17
10 NO 27 – SF 13
11 – BYE
12 SF 23 – LAR 20
13 Buff 34 – SF 24
14 Wash 23 – SF 15
15 Dal – 41 – SF 33
16 SF 20 – AZ 12
17 Sea 26 – SF 23
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15 – 3
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1: SF 31 – TB 17
2: SF 41 – Cincy 17
3: SF 24 – Pitts 20
4: Bye week
5: SF 31 – Cle 3
6: SF 20 – LAR 7
7: SF 9 – Wash 0
8: SF 51 – Car 13
9: SF 28 – AZ 25
10: Sea 27 – SF 24
11: SF 36 – AZ 26
12: SF 37 – GB 8
13: Balt 20 – SF 17
14: SF 48 – NO 46
15: Atl 29 – SF 22 ooops
16: SF 34 – LA 31
17: SF 26 – Sea 21 de ja vu!
Div: SF 27 – Minn 10
NFC: SF 37 – GB 20
SB: KC 31 – SF 20
FUUUUUUUUUCK
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1: Nick Bosa, DE, Ohio State
2: Deebo Samuel, WR, SCar
3: Jalen Hurd, WR, Baylor
4: Mitch Wishnowsky, P, Utah
5: Dre Greenlaw, LB, Ark
6: Kaden Smith, TE, Stanford
6: Justin Skule, OT, Vandy
6: Tim Harris, CB, Va
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1 Minn 24 – SF 16
2 SF 30 – Det 27
3 KC 34 – SF 28
4 SD 29 – SF 27
5 AZ 28 – SF 18
6 GB 33 – SF 30
7 Rams 39 – SF 10
8 Cards 18 – SF 15
9 49ers 34 – Oak 3
10 NYG 27 – SF 23
11 – BYE –
12 TB 27 – SF 09
13 Sea 43 – SF 16
14 SF 20 – Den 14
15 SF 26 – Sea 23
16 Chi 14 – SF 9
17 LAR 48 – SF 32
Pffffffffffffffffft
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1 (9) Mike McGlinchey, OT, ND
2 (44) Dante Pettis, WR, Wash
3 (70) Fred Warner, OLB, BYU
3 (95) Tarv. Moore, S, S Miss
4 (128) Kent. Street, DE, NC St
5, (142) D.J. Reed, DB, K State
6 (184) Marcell Harris, DB, Fla
7 (223) Jul. Taylor, DT Temple
7 (240) Rick James, WR M Ten St
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Regular Season (6-10)
Garoppolo 5-0
Sept. 10 Carol 23 – SF 3
Sept. 17 Sea 12 – SF 9
Sept. 21 LA 41 – SF 39
Oct. 1 AZ 18 – SF 12 (OT)
Oct. 8 Indy 26 – SF 23 (OT)
Oct. 15 Wa 26 – SF 24
Oct. 22 Dall 40 – SF 10
Oct. 29 Phi 40 – SF 13
Nov. 5 AZ 20 – SF 10
Nov. 12 SF 31 – NYG 21
Sunday, Nov. 19 Bye
Nov. 26 Sea 33 – SF 13
Dec. 3 SF 15 – Chi 14
Dec. 10 SF 26 – Hou 16
Dec. 17 SF 25 – Tenn 23
Dec. 24 SF 44 – Jax 33
Dec. 31 SF 33 – LA 13
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3. Solomon Thomas, DE Snodfart
31. Reuben Foster, LB Alabama
66. Ahkelo Witherspoon, CB Colo
104. C.J. Beathard, QB Iowa
121. Joe Williams, RB Utah
146. George Kittle, TE Iowa
177. Trent Taylor, WR Louisiana Tech
198. D.J. Jones, DT Mississippi
202. Pita Taumoepenu, LB Utah
229. Adrian Colbert, CB Miami
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2 – 14 (We OWN the Rams!!)
SF 28 – LA 0
Panthers 46 – SF 28
Sea 37 – SF 18
Dal 24 – SF 17
AZ 33 – SF 21
Buff 45 – SF 16
TB 34 – SF 17
NO 87 – SF 20
AZ 23 – SF 20
NE 30 – SF 17
Miami 31 – SF 24
Chi 26 – SF 6
NYJ 23 – SF 17
Atl 473 – SF 13
SF 22 – LA 21
Sea 25 – SF 23
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1: 7 – Ore DL DeForest Buckner
1: 28 - Stanford G Joshua Garnett
3: 68 – Miss State CB Will Redmond
4: 133 - LSU CB Rashard Robinson
5: 142 – App State DL Ronald Blair
5: 145 – Georgia OL John Theus
5: 174 – Ole Miss OL Fahn Cooper
6: 207 – Louisiana QB Jeff Driskel
6: 211 – Florida RB Kelvin Taylor
6: 213 – Mich St WR Aaron Burbridge
7: 249 – W Ky CB Prince Charles Iworah
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5 – 11? Fuuuuuck
1 SF 20 – Minn 3
2 Pitt 43 – SF 18
3 AZ 47 – SF 7 –
4 GB 21 – SF 6
5 NYG 30 – SF 27
6 SF 25 – Balt 20
7 Sea 20 – SF 3
8 StL 27 – SF 6
9 SF 17 – Atl 16
10 Bye Week
11 Sea 29 – SF 13
12 AZ 19 – SF 13
13 SF 26 – Chi 20
14 Cle 24 – SF 10
15 Cincy 24 – SF 14
16 Det 32 – SF 17
17 SF 19 – StL 16
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1 (17). Arik Armstead, DL, Ore
2 (14). Jaquiski Tartt, S, Samford
3 (15). Eli Harold, OLB, Virginia
4 (18). Blake Bell, TE, Oklahoma
4 (27). Mike Davis, RB, SCar
4 (33). DeAndre Smelter, WR, GT
5 (29). Bradley Pinion, P, Clemson
6 (14). Ian Silberman, OL, BC
7 (27). Trenton Brown, OL, Florida
7 (37). Rory Anderson, TE, SCar
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8-8
1 9-7 SF 28 – Alice 17
2 9-14 Chi 28 – SF 20
3 9-21 AZ 23 – SF 14
4 9-28 SF 26 – Iggles 21
5 10-5 SF 22 – KC 17
6 10-13 SF 31 – StL 17
7 10-19 Den 72 – SF 3
8 BYE WEEK
9 11-2 StL 13 – SF 10
10 11-9 SF 27 – NO 24
11 11-16 SF 16 – NYG 13
12 11-23 SF 17 – Wash 13
13 11-27 Sea 19 – SF 3
14 12-7 Oak 24 – SF 13
15 19-6 Squalks
16 30-27 SD – fuck, I don’t care
17 SF 20 – AZ 17
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1 (30). Jimmie Ward db NlU
2 (57). Carlos Hyde rb Ohio St
3 (70). Marcus Martin c USC
3 (77). Chris Borland ilb Wisc
3 (100). Brandon Thomas ol Clem
4 (106). Bruce Ellington wr SCar
4 (129). Dontae Johnson cb NC St
5 (150). Aaron Lynch olb S Fla
5 (170). Keith Reaser cb Fla Atl
6 (180). Kenneth Ackercb SMU
7 (243). Kaleb Ramsey de BC
7 (245). Trey Millard fb Ok
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PRE 8/08 Donkeys 10 – SF 6
PRE 8/16 SF 15 – Chefs 13
PRE 8/25 SF 34 – Vikes 14
PRE 8/29 SF 41 SanDawgs 6
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01 9/08 SF 34 – GB 28
02 9/15 Sea 29 – SF 3
03 9/22 Indy 27 – SF 7
04 9/26 SF 35 – StL 11
05 10/06 SF 34 – Hou 3
06 10/13 SF 32 – AZ 20
07 10/20 SF 31 – Tenn 17
08 10/27 SF 42 – Jax 10
09 Bye Week
10 11/10 Carol 10 – SF 9
11 11/17 NO 23 – SF 20
12 11/25 SF 27 – Skins 6
13 12/01 SF 23 – Rams 13
14 12/08 SF 19 – Sea 17!!
15 12/15 SF 33 – TB 14
16 12/23 SF 34 – Atl 24
17 12/29 SF 23 – AZ 20
PLAYOFFS (2-1)
1/5/14 SF 23 – GB 20
1/12/14 SF 23 – Carolina 10
1/19/14 Sea 23 – SF 17
Not again!
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1 – Eric Reid – LSU – S
2 – Tank Carradine – Fla St – DE
2 – V McDonald – Rice – TE
3 – Corey Lemonier – Aub – DE
4 – Quinton Patton – La Te – WR
4 – Marcus Lattimore – SCr – RB
5 – Quinton Dial – Bama – DE
6 – Nick Moody – OLB – Fla
7 – B. J. Daniels – So Fla – QB
7 – Carter Bykowski – Iowa S – OT
7 – Marcus Cooper – Ruts – CB
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W Sun 9/9 SF 30 – GB 22
W Sun 9/16 SF 27 – Det 19
L Sun 9/23 Minn 24 – SF 13
W Sun 9/30 SF 34 – NYJ 0
W Sun 10/7 SF 45 – Buff 3
L Sun 10/14 NY 26 – SF 3
W Thu 10/18 SF 13 – Sea 6
W Mon 10/29 SF 24 – AZ 3
. . . . . . . . . . . Bye . . . . . . . . .
T Sun 11/11 SF 24 – StL 24
W Mon 11/19 SF 32 – Chi 7
W Sun 11/25 SF 31 – NO 21
L Sun 12/2 StL 16 – SF 13
W Sun 12/9 SF 27 – Mia 13
W Sun 12/16 SF 41 – NE 34
L Sun 12/23 Sea 100 – SF 3
W Sun 12/30 SF 27 – AZ 13
Playoffs
W Sat 1/12 SF 45 – GB 31
W Sun 1/20 SF 28 – Atl 24
Super Bowl
Sun 2/3 Balt 34 – SF 31
The horror. The horror . . .
All time PST
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1: WR A.J. Jenkins — Illini
2: RB LaMichael James — Ore
4: OL Joe Looney — Wake Forest
5: LB Darius Fleming — ND
6: S Trenton Robinson — Mich St
6: OL Jason Slowey — W Ore
7: DE Cam Johnson — Va
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Forty Niners Forever 
Twin, Alex could be the #1 QB for the Jags tomorrow. The OC, like Peyton does. Part owner of the Jags, tomorrow.
Peter Principle.
Alex is a smart guy. He wants a Ring.
Is JH a moron for “maybe” switching QBs? We don’t know because JH as usual is jerking us off… as usual. We’ll find out after Kap plays the Saints. It’s a risk true but maybe JH knows something about QBs…
Let’s see
Jerking us OFFf? Jerking us AROUND maybe. I’m excited to see CK start, but not THAT excited.
Ok then. Yer right, lol
Since most don’t wanna make a call on the Niners/Saints please allow me to shove this in yer face Oh Prophets of da Pigskin:
Scoring challenge, 2nd edition. Niners vs Saints:
Chuck: 34-21 Niners. “NO may be pumped, but defensively, they are 27th in points allowed, 31st vs the pass, 32nd vs the run, and 32nd overall by a large margin I think we can score on them. Cappy will do fine. Smith likely won’t get cleared in time for this. ”
rtfirefly: 26-17 Niners. I adjust my weekly prediction because of Brees, Kappy and the Superdome
barleyfreak: 30-23, Saints. I have this feeling that we’re going to lose at the Superdome regardless of who is playing QB. Their D sucks, granted, but I see them playing better in their house against us this week. They will be PUMPED, you can bet, less than one year after losing the NFCCG in heartbreaking fashion. I see them getting some points on us — and we’ll have score better than 30 to win.
Phil: 36-20 Niners. Kapster starts, we grab a lead, D goes all sack happy (again), the run game wears ‘em down and this sucker is nothing like the NFC title game.
Grumpy Guy: 41-38 Niners. I’m actually more concerned right now about T. Brown, Culliver and Goldson being hurt and ‘limited in practice’, than in who starts at QB. This could turn into a real track meet. Early prediction: Kaep starts, 49ers win a crazy game, 41-38.
Barley said last week we would score more with Kap and damn if he didn’t nail
it.
So we out score the NO MoFos I’m thinking. Maybe not by the 16 I’m calling fer tho…
This will be the game the Bears thought it would be. The Niners come out and run run run.
Yes, the run, lots… Can’t stop us
And I don;t believe for a second that any of our DBs are really hurting. Harbaugh is doing all he can to mess with the Saints.
I am more concerned with which Niner defense shows up in NO than which QB. If Brees puts up a lot of points and the Niners get behind it could be a long day for Kap with them pinning their ears back and our run game diminished.
This game has me worried but 28-27 Niners in a nailbiter.
The Saints don’t run particularly well, so the Niners D is coming out in the nickel. They’ll go dime on 3rd down. Brees will throw 55 times. Get his 300. That’s a given. It’s red zone defense and the pass rush that dictates how the game goes. The Niner D has been pretty good at not giving up big plays, but this will be tested early and often tomorrow.
Offensively, I think the Niners go jumbo packages and try to run down their throats. The Saints show a ton of different looks as opposed to the Bears and their straight-up defense. So they will disguuise their blitzes to confuse Cappy into mistakes/sacks. it doesn’t really matter how bad their defense is doing. At home they are tough.
If the Niners can shut the crow up by grinding out yards on the ground, plus keep the ball out of Brees’ hands, then the Niners should be OK. They aren’t as blitz-happy as they were under Gregg Williams, but they still show a ton of different looks.
agree Chuck, I would be surprised to see Kap come out winging it like the Bears game but then again surprise is Harbs forte so who knows.
There are numbers that destroy NoFear’s contention that Smith is a dinker and dunker- air yards per attempt, wjhere Smith is comparable to Brady and Rodgers, among other top QBs. Eyes glaze over when I go into the facts, so you’ll have to trust me or look it up yourself.
But perhaps the best stat in measuring performance is DVOA., ” or Defense-adjusted Value Over Average. This number represents value, per play, over an average quarterback in the same game situations. The more positive the DVOA rating, the better the player’s performance.:” Smith ranks 7th. It’s hard to argue the validity of the stat when one looks at the QBs rated higher, 1-6 are Brady, Manning, Brees, Schaub, Big Ben,Rodgers…
So let’s be clear-put your biases aside and face the fact that if Jimbo decides that Kap is the better choice than Smith, he’s really saying that Kap is also better than Ryan,Romo, Stafford, Eli, Luck- all of whom perform worse than Alex in comparable game situations.
Now I realize that this is an advanced stat so I don’t expect that most will value it over that always dependable “sniff test”. Matbe it will help if I note that if Kap actually maintained his 1 3/4 game performance, he would rank 4th in DVOA. As unlikely as that might be, I’d be the first to anoint him as truly the second coming of Joe-Steve Wonderfulness.
Twin, Kap had 6 over 20 yd throws in the Chicago game and I think we all saw the vertical game came alive. Stats are fine but we all saw what we all saw.
Alex has the short and intermediate passing game down, shot plays I read somewhere he is 3 of 15. The The thing about stats is they are an indicator but never tell the whole story. My guess about this particular stat is it favors the consistent intermediate pass, something Alex has been good at this year.
And in games against select defenses we’ve seen the vertical game with Smith. There’s no doubt that Colin has the bigger arm. If he really does take over the #1 job we’ll see if that translates into Terry Bradshaw or Troy Smith-who was very comparable to Kap after two games. I’m sure he’ll be better than Troy,,, well, I hope so. What’s kinda funny, though, Sing had a helluva lot more reason to try Troy than Jimbo does if he benches Alex..
There are lots of problems with your stats method Twinfan.
Stats are what happen *after* the guy plays not reasons to play him.
What the hell kind of stat can rate a player over his fictional replacement? (hint) It all goes to hell after an actual replacement plays.
Why won’t you hear this in a coaches meeting? “But coach we can’t put in Kaep. Alex’s Football Outsiders’ DVOA says he’s way better than his replacement would be.”
Why aren’t you pushing the QBR any longer?
None of it gets the ball down the field any further in the air or changes the distance to Alex’s preferred targets.
Also, if Kaep has a great game and you deem him worthy of praise, *then* it will be ok for everyone to go along? It would hardly make you the first to crown him. Only the first to do so after Twinfan gives his blessing.
When have I or anybody else been prevented from stating your opinions? That’s plain stupid, pal. Go for it as you always have.
“None of it gets the ball down the field any further in the air or changes the distance to Alex’s preferred targets.”
Your bogus allegation has been disproven.Now that Air Yard figures have become an accepted stat, you’ll be unable to lie about that anymore. Try to rememeber it’s not the air yard total that’s relevent- it’s *per attempt*..
Kap did throw deeper over one game. And it’s refected in the air yeards per atempt (6.0). ..but sorry boys, you can’t dismiss facts because they don’t fit your preconceived bias. Updated::QB’s with 4.0 to 4.3 air yards per attempt are Newton, Brady, Stafford at 4.0, Schaub and Flacco at 4.1, Manning, Griffin, and Cutler at 4.2 , Brees and Smith at 4.3… These aren’t numbers you can spit on with a bogus sniff test. I’m certainly not saying Kap’s are not legit- but as any informed observer would attest, he’s a mite short of a reasonable sample size.Henne went from first to 19th in a week..
“Why aren’t you pushing the QBR any longer? ”
I am. He’s 5th in the traditional QB rating, 7th in DVOA, and 8th in total QBR. All three of those are meaningless, of course.Or was “misleading” the word? I forget the nonsense that’s thrown out when you boys don’t like the facts..
Twin, Alex is 31 st in the league in attempts and 29th in yardage, he does pretty well with the attempts he does make but the “check down” moniker does fit. The run game argument mitigates those issues to quite a degree but clearly passing and specifically passing deep successfully is problematic for an Alex led offense. Kap with the same plays, players and scheme did considerably better. Sample size is very small but growing so we shall see how he fares. Kap is light years from Nate Davis/Troy Smith.
I am not putting Alex down necessarily, he simply has area’s of his game that are weak and I don’t think running out various stats that point up a particular aspect or other is proving that wrong.
There are lies, damn lies and statistics.
Oh poor Twinnie. You against the world. In your mind. I’m for Cappy getting this start. I’m sure cooler heads will prevail and it goes back to Smith next weekend. As bad as NOs defense is supposed to be, they present a lot of problems for whoever QBs tomorrow.
Is Harbaugh playing games? Uh, yeah. But if you want to jump at all the shadows flying around, so be it. Tilt away, Don Quixote. No one else out there wants Alex to play but you . . .
Eat it, Chuckles. Jumping on my comments is getting old, dude. If you think I’m out of line, delete my comments or ban me.
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
Poor baby.
No, Twin, I think you overreact at times. You want to paint shit to be you against the world. You against the unwashed masses. Touching but wrong. Who here is dead set against Alex?
People ain’t fully on board with Smith, so you paint them as ‘haters’ so you can engage in the hyperbole you think others use against you.
I don’t care either way, just don’t cry foul when you get called out on it.
Actually, poor Chuckie, I’m only pointing out facts for you. But saying I’m the only one who thinks Alex should play if healthy is yet another lie. Perhaps it’s true with the blog potatoes that Colin should start but there’s hardly a consensus among football people.Look, if all dem numbers confuse you, as they do in baseball, I’m always glad to help.
Well, I ain’t the one flipping out over every tweet flung out there by mis (or un) informed journalists and players.
Twaddle on, skippy. The blog world needs people like you.
Maybe you should use your powers as the Blog Maestro to correct fabrications like those regularly put out by Fear. See, the blog world does need folks who call out the fabricators. Try it.
Jaworski’s always been kind to Alex. He said this after our last game, and after reading my game comments.
“… I think clearly Kaeperneck’s ability to get the ball down the field scares the hell out of defenses.
Alex Smith is a terrific quarterback, but you don’t have the vertical game that you have, with Alex Smith in there, that you have with Colin Kaeperneck.”
Vernon Davis said it felt like they took the handcuffs off him with Kaepernick.
Translation: Alex’s game is a short passing game. He deals in safe, high percentage throws. He’s become efficient in a game plan requiring 20 or fewer passes.
“Vernon Davis said it felt like they took the handcuffs off him with Kaepernick”
See, he never said that. He said he felt the handcuffs were off, never said “with Kaepernick” . As VD and Harbaugh have both said- Vernon had been doubled, teams had played to stop him. Davis said he ran his routes and wasn’t open. The Bears played single coverage and packed the box- voila-he was open. Try to be factual, Fear,
You’re right Twin that is what VD said but he also said on a given specific play that with Alex the TE never gets the pass thrown to him but that Kap threw it to him and did so in a tight window like Brady does.
Also, although he didn’t add “with Kaepernick” regarding the handcuffs comment I think it’s fair to assume that’s who he was talking about since Kap was the only QB playing.
I don’t mean to be rude Twin, but your comments after the Bears game and the consistency of the posts since show your bias pretty clearly. You accuse everyone else of bias against Alex but in my opinion you are showing more bias than anyone else for Alex.
Kap is probably starting Sunday and may or may not be the starter going forward, either way this is less a condemnation of Alex who is playing well, than a chance for the team to improve upon that level of play. We will see how it works out.
Vernon Davis: “Kaepernick played last night and happened to do a good job but Alex (Smith) is still the man, no question”.. a real quote, not one fabricated to suggest something that Davis never meant..
Bias? You bet, pal. I’m demonstating, with numbers that can’t be argued (as much as you want your “sniff test” to trump all facts) that Smith should be the QB.
I’ve said may many times that Colin did a fine job- I’ve also pointed out some facts about the defense he faced, facts originally pointed out by Dilfer- and easy to check.
He did praise that throw as Brady-ish, it was a great throw, that has absolutely nothing to with Alex and whether he could make the throw.VD absolutlely should have been praising the kid for good work. You think maybe VD kinda liked THIS throw- on a bigger stage, with bigger stakes? Oh wait, that was all VD, Smith had nothing to do with it….
Well Twin you keep demonstrating who should start and I will watch the game to see who is going to start.
Top 5 favorite punchlines to all-time favorite jokes…
5. $20. Same as downtown.
4. How do you think I rang the doorbell?
3. That’s not a bagpipe, but don’t stop playing.
2. All the genie gave me was a 12-inch pianist.
1. Alex Smith.
I’ve never seen a more unnecessary week of debate about something in the history of Bay Area sports. None of this needed to happen. This d-bag is replacing his QB who has run the team to a 20-6 record during his time as coach. JH is either the greatest coaching mind in the history of sports or a guy who’s about to toss a lit gas can on his team’s season. We’ll see. For the record, I’m totally against doing this at this point in the season…..
Well, nothing has really happened. Harbaugh couldhave stopped the blather, but I,m sure the players know what,s going on. Smith hasn,t been cleared yet. Cappy starts tomorrow. Maybe. The only people freaking out are the bloggers and reporters.
I,m with you that it makes o sense to switch abs midstream, but that hasn,t happened yet.
It’s obviously going to be Kap and it SHOULD BE Kap…for this game. I’ve got no problem at all with JH taking a look at Kap on the road and resting Alex’s brain one more week. But he should have just said he was doing this as soon as last week’s game ended. That was my point. This week of blather was avoidable. If he did the simple thing I said to do he gets his free look at Kap on the road AND THEN decides to make a move one way or the other.
I think Kap is going to take a few steps back in NO, btw…
then we get to see where Jimmy shops for his drawers…………..
I think he likes the drama
And twin, it ain’t,t my job to fact check others.
Good to know. I ‘ll take care of it, Chuckles.
Twinfan, confused by the concept of quotation marks? I added the ‘with Kaep’ so you’d know when he said what he said. I dropped the quotes so you’d know I added it.
You run away from your “brilliant” comments at the end of nearly every game last year and now you run away from your dismissive comments of Kaep’s performance last week where you summed it up with ‘zero defense’ and ‘impossible to be unsuccessful’ and try to pass yourself off as praising Kaep’s performance.
You keep screeching about fabrications while you’re doing all the fabricating and twisting.
If your position is so hard to defend maybe a reassessment of it is in order.
I’m going to say this one more time-you’re a fucking liar, pal.I called one pass “brilliant” in 2009. I’ve never “run away” from anything..
What’s hilarious is to say it’s a “bias” when it’s shown that Smith is 20-6-1, that he’s rated in the top ten by every rating system ,that he was player of the week the last full game he played ( against the #5 pass defense in the league)… I could go on.but it’s not “bias” to say that that should trump one good ballgame by his back up. It’s called common sense.Sound thinking ..
So why is Harbaugh doing this? Simple: he’s out of control. His pressers this week have been shockingly contemptuous of a press and fans who have adored him. Colin is probably going to be a fine QB in the NFL and he might be that now- but Harbaugh has a fine QB- one who has done nothing to lose his job. Harbaugh has chosen to humiliate him to further Jimbo’s rep as QB maker. They were going to the playooffs with Smith-only a cretin could deny that- and they’d be going to the playofs with the QB who had 5 TD passes and 100+ rating in last year’s postseason. The argument that Smith is out today to give him another week to heal doesn’t wash-he’s active and the back up today according to Branch.
Harbaugh has taken a bold but risky move and as Niner fan, I hope Kap does well- but as a knowledgeable fan, I have doubts -and as a human being I don’t like how a class person has been abused..
Twin, you are off the rails with this: ” Harbaugh has chosen to humiliate him to further Jimbo’s rep as QB maker.”
He is choosing to play Kap because he thinks it serves the teams best interests.
You are becoming unhinged about this.
The problem is, if Harbaugh wins, no one cares if he’s Jeffrey fucking Dalmer. If Cappy gets them SB #6, no one cares how he acts. Just get the Lombardi trophy. The Smith deal is not over by any stretch. I think Harbaugh just enjoys fucking with everyone. I think Smith starts next week regardless of how Cappy does. Unless it’s close to last week.
New thread is up.