Well, it would seem to be a non-issue as we have traded so much draft capital in getting Trey lance, but we just got 2 conditional 3rd round picks (one this year, one next) for the Mike McDaniel hire by the Miami Dolphins. Like Robert Saleh last year, he is walking into a shit-show of the highest order, and will likely be in for a struggle. Saleh coached the Jets to a 4-13 record. Ouch. Miami is embroiled in the Brian Flores scandal, but I guess this hire takes the heat off? Whatevs.
This is about the draft. Jimmy Garoppolo, for good or ill, is on the block. Yes, he reached the NFC Championship game. Whether that was due to him or despite him isn’t really an issue as there are SO many teams looking for an even decent QB to do something for them. Just off the top of my head, Pittsburgh (bye Worthlessburger), Tampa Bay (bye Tom Terrific), Houston (where’s DeShaun?), New Orleans, Miami, Carolina, and especially Denver are all actively looking for a quarterback. Plus, Jimmy G handled all the bullshit thrown his way by the media and the team itself. He proved to be a great mentor to Trey, so he’s valued by teams in that regard as well.
Then there are teams that could possibly make a change, as in the Raiders and the Seahawks. Pete Carroll loves taking our castoffs, so that is always possible, but I don’t see us trading with either Vegas or Seattle.
Shit, speaking of the Jets, they could even take Jimmy off our hands to protect their investment in Zack Wilson, as he got clobbered all year and was hurt and/or getting chased down relentlessly all season. They could give a guy like Jimmy a shot to be a bridge QB while Saleh tries to draft an offensive line this draft. But I doubt it. Now that the Broncos ownership is up in the air, we may have lost our biggest target. Horse-face has been failing miserably in trying to fill the QB spot since he signed a gimpy Peyton Manning from the Colts way back in 2012. Peyton retired on top, winning the Super Bowl by not fucking up in the 2015 season, so they haven’t had a QB since.
Could we get a one out of them? Since we don’t know who the GM or coach will be, we have to wait. But my baseline would be as I said, a 2 and a 4. Pittsburgh has a solid team and Worthlessburger has recently pretty much been Jimmy G with his short to medium passes, and no deep game whatsoever. Tampa is a solid team as well that could use the steadying presence of a guy like Jimmy. NO is the same. They just need someone to be solid if not spectacular.
Houston? I don’t think we’d have the heart to fuck Jimmy over like that. But as of now based on what moves we have made, we own 9 picks:
- Round 2, Overall Pick 61
- Round 3, Overall Pick 93
- Round 3 (compensatory pick for McDaniel)
- Round 4, Overall Pick 133
- Round 5, Overall Pick 172
- Round 6, Overall Pick 186 (from Broncos for LB Jonas Griffith)
- Round 7 (compensatory pick)
- Round 7 (compensatory pick)
- Round 7 (compensatory pick)
Seeing as this brain (fart) trust seems to do well at the bottom of the draft board, maybe this isn’t a bad thing.
It wouldn’t surprise me if we bundle a few picks to move up for another 2nd. I just hope we actually get something for Jimmy. It looks like it’s DB’s and shore up the lines. It also wouldn’t surprise me it they go for veteran OL’s in FA Shanny seems to like em that way. I am jazzed about Lance and what he might bright to the table. That in itself is enough to keep my attention going.
I’m leaning towards the trenches ahead of the Secondary.
Got a major question mark with Kinlaw.
No see Dee being released can recoup a little cash, and a younger option, via the Draft, makes more sense to me.
Got no money until Jimmy’s deal is off the books and, too many people to pay.
Thinking OT, DE, OG/C in the top end, no particular order.
DBs appear to be plentiful and, we may consider a S early if Tartt walks.
Banks to LG for Laken? Not sure we can pay him.
McGlinchey coming off a quad tear? Gotta have a replacement plan. Moore? Not sure.
Mack? Pushing 37?
Need a younger option there.
Brunskill as the swing man, Draft a RG. (I’m working on it).
Gotta restructure Arik, possibly Ward, to free up some cash.
Lenoir replaces K’wan? We’ll see.
Thinking Mostert will follow McDaniel as he’s a FL guy and will want more money than we can afford to pay.
Just getting started on my Draft homework, I’ll see what I can do 😀
Cool!! Mack played well all season, but yeah, hard to count on that again. Mostert is as good as gone. Lenoir and Banks did nothing last year to think they will break out as starters, so I think they need to backfill there as well.
So far Kinlaw has been a bust. I know the size and strength are there but the will and the smarts are still a mystery. I don’t think Banks is gonna make it either. I would give em both one more shot but that’s it. Trade em while they may still have some value. When it’s time to cut bait you just gotta do it.
Kinlaw should be fine. He’s been on a bad knee since college. They say he’s right now, but we will see. Banks looks to be more of a bust because he was healthy and couldn’t crack the lineup. Same with Lenoir.
I am going to break this up from Matt Barrows of the Atlantic
A 49ers team looking at a skimpy 2022 draft haul after last year’s push to get Trey Lance suddenly is expecting nine selections in April … with more likely on the way.
The team on Sunday added a pick at the end of the third round when offensive coordinator Mike McDaniel agreed to join the Dolphins as their head coach. McDaniel is biracial, and the 49ers were rewarded for his advancement with a pair of compensatory third-round picks, one in 2022 and another in 2023.
Last year, when the Jets hired Robert Saleh as head coach and Washington made Martin Mayhew its general manager, the 49ers were awarded third-round picks in the 2021, 2022 and 2023 drafts. Here’s the current tally on all of the compensatory third rounders:
• 2021 (Saleh/Mayhew): Used to select cornerback Ambry Thomas at pick No. 102
• 2022 (Saleh/Mayhew): Part of the package of picks traded to Miami last year to get Lance
• 2022 (McDaniel): Available
• 2023 (Saleh/Mayhew): Available
• 2023: (McDaniel): Available
The 49ers also will try to trade Jimmy Garoppolo in the coming weeks, which might result in at least one more second-day pick in the upcoming draft. The 49ers currently don’t have a first-round selection in April. But dealing Garoppolo could land them four second-day selections, which would be plenty of ammunition should they try to grab a particular player at the end of the first round.
As it stands now, only 44 players are under contract for the upcoming season, including Garoppolo and defensive end Dee Ford, who has played only seven games over the last two seasons due to a chronic back issue. That means that through free agency and the draft, the 49ers will have to add perhaps 46 players to create a 90-man offseason roster.
So where are their biggest needs? Here are the top five:
I know, I know — you expected guard to be in the top spot given all the issues the 49ers have had at right guard over the years. And if the 49ers are unable to re-sign left guard Laken Tomlinson, who becomes a free agent next month, perhaps that position shoots to the top.
But as it stands now, the 49ers will have an awful lot of contenders for the right guard spot. They spent a mid-second round pick last year on Aaron Banks, who ended up playing only five garbage-time snaps on offense as a rookie. They’ll look for more investment on that pick when spring practices begin.
Others who could compete for the starting spot include 2021 fifth-round pick Jaylon Moore, whom the 49ers see more as a guard than a tackle, 2020 fifth-round pick Colton McKivitz, who also is better suited for guard than tackle, and Tom Compton, who also is scheduled to be a free agent but who should be easy to re-sign. The point is the 49ers have several candidates to compete with Daniel Brunskill, a restricted free agent whose pass-blocking grade for 2021 ranked 98th among guards, according to Pro Football Focus.
Center? The team doesn’t have nearly the depth at that spot. Veteran Alex Mack’s return for 2022 is not a given, and even if Mack comes back he’ll turn 37 midway through the season. The 49ers haven’t drafted a college center since 2014 when they took USC’s Marcus Martin in the third round.
Given how critical a smart, mobile center is to Kyle Shanahan’s attack, that ought to be high on their list this season. The Chiefs used a second-round pick last year on center Creed Humphrey, and he ended up starting 20 games for them. The Eagles used a second-rounder on center Landon Dickerson, and he started 14 games at guard. The 49ers could do something similar with an early-round pick who could compete at guard for a season while watching how Mack operates at center.
You can never have too many pass-rushing defensive ends. That’s the 49ers theory, anyway. They have one of the best in the game in Nick Bosa, but the rest of the position is fuzzy.
Ford has a back issue. Arden Key and Jordan Willis are scheduled to be free agents. Samson Ebukam and Charles Omenihu are signed for the upcoming season, but both seem like they should be part of the team’s second-tier defensive line, the Bravo unit, and neither is signed beyond 2022.
The 49ers should be shooting for someone who can do some of the things Ford did before his injury. It could be a case of need matching supply as defensive line is the deepest position in the draft. There should be several speed-rushing edge players available on the second day, including South Carolina’s Kingsley Enagbare, Cincinnati’s Myjai Sanders and Penn State’s Arnold Ebiketie.
Until Dec. 23 this was probably the team’s top need. But Thomas started making plays in that Week 16 game against the Titans — two pass breakups — and got a little bit better every week thereafter. He was an excellent tackler throughout, had the game-sealing interception in Week 18, steadily gained confidence and ended the season as the frontrunner to begin the 2022 campaign alongside Emmanuel Moseley at cornerback.
That’s not to say the 49ers couldn’t stand to add to the position. Nickel options K’Waun Williams and Dontae Johnson are both headed to free agency. The 49ers could re-sign one or both, and they may consider another pending free agent, veteran Darqueze Dennard. He was one of the quick-adapting heroes of the Week 18 win in Los Angeles, and his late-season stint seemed to re-energize the 30-year-old. Still, this is a spot where the 49ers could stand to draft at least one more young player, especially someone who can play nickel cornerback, an every-down role against the Rams in the NFC Championship Game. Even if they come back, Williams will be 31 and Johnson 30 when the regular season begins.
Yes, the 49ers have a pair of excellent starters in Deebo Samuel and Brandon Aiyuk, and youngster Jauan Jennings showed he’s worthy of being the No. 3 wide receiver. But those are the only three receivers signed for next season. The 49ers like to keep six on the active roster with another two or three on the practice squad.
Re-signing Mohamed Sanu, Trent Sherfield or Travis Benjamin wouldn’t be difficult. Still, the team could stand to add to the position, especially considering that Samuel either will be playing running back — or on the sideline catching his breath after playing running back — for a significant number of plays per game.
The 49ers also could stand to add a receiver who returns punts. Aiyuk handled that role for most of the regular season. He didn’t take a punt from Week 18 onward. That was Benjamin’s role, and there’s no guarantee Benjamin, 32, will be back.
Third-down running back
If the 49ers re-sign Raheem Mostert, this won’t be a problem. He’d be their choice in this role. If Mostert signs elsewhere, however, the 49ers would be back where they were in 2021: Using either 5-foot-8 JaMycal Hasty or fullback Kyle Juszczyk in that role.
It’s possible Elijah Mitchell hones his pass-catching and pass-blocking skills to become a reliable third-down option. Still, he wasn’t a natural in that capacity as a rookie. And the team already relies so heavily on him on first and second downs — and Mitchell missed six games with an array of injuries — that it might be smart to start developing another option.
Depending on the shape of our Staff after McDaniel drags assitants with him to Miami, I’m anxious to see if the philosophy changes with the addition of Anthony Lynn.
What he (Lynn) does is probably more indicative of the RBs being more involved in the passing game. Might be good news for Sermon.
I would also think there will be more deep passing efforts witrh Trey as Jimmeh had no ability to do it.
I wouldn’t mind seeing bigger OGs added to the picture either.
Both OGs from the UGA OL will be in the mix for me.
Jamaree Salyer / 6-4 -325
Justin Shaffer / 6-4 – 330
Banks is there at 6-5 325
Brunskill and Compton are lighter guys.
Curious to see if Brendel or Brunskill are candidates to move to Center also.
Otherwise, draft a young Center in April.
3 guys I’ll be watching for in Indy so far…
Dohnovan West 6-4 300 Arizona State
Cam Jurgens 6-3 290 Nebraska
Alec Lindstrom 6-3 298 Boston College
Here’s the list I’ll be watching for in Indy for a guy to replace McGlinchey –
I’ll be adding or removing guys once the numbers and drills are finalized from the Combine –
Bernhard Raimann OT 6-7 305 Central Michigan
Tyler Smith OT 6-6 332 Tulsa
Rasheed Walker OT 6-6 320 Penn State
Abraham Lucas OT 6-7 319 Washington State
Nicholas Petit-Frere OT 6-5 315 Ohio State
Watch how this kid moves too – He’s enormous. Won’t see him getting bullrushed into the QB 😀
Daniel Faalele OT 6-9 380 Minnesota
Combine Invitation List –
Keep an eye on this kid
TE Isaiah Likely, Coastal Carolina
Can’t believe there are no PAC 12 QB’s on that list.
I’m still in gramma’s basement wasting my time.
We allowed the Rams to out muscle us in the NFCCG.
Trent and Compton were weak links.
I’d like to see us get bigger inside at OG to start.
Trenches need to dominate.
No, we played into a defense designed to stop runs up the middle and we ran up the middle.
Much of the game we simply stopped ourselves. I put most of the blame on Shanahan. He coached that like Aluminum Mike Singletary. LA dared us to run up the middle and we did.
Not official yet but it looks like 49er’s Receiving Coach Wes Welker will be joining Dolphins Coach Mike McDaniel’s coaching staff..
Bryant Young made the HOF
Just saw that Winder. Most excellent. Congrats to BY!
That’s AWESOME 👏
Bryant Young well deserved for the HOF!!
Class act always and an anchor on the DL!!
The offense was ineffective most of the game due to Shanny and we wore down.
I just read something about Montana saying from what he has heard Lance isn’t ready yet. I guess he has talked with some people close to the situation. I tried to find the article again but couldn’t find it.
Oh well. I don’t think this holds much water. Another full camp will help. And there’s a decent team around him to help. This isn’t like Wilson or Lawrence. More like the Mac Jones situation. We should be a playoff team and by then Lance will have more experience.
Yeah, I certainly hope so. In the same article he also says he just needs more time and real game action.
I think Joe’s comments were on The Score ? But he was interviewed on The Ringer with some guy named Kevin Clark? Anyway I have nothing but respect for my legend Joe Montana, but I don’t agree the 49ers need to are willing to keep JG around. U don’t give up 3 firsts to have Lance just to continue holding a clipboard and absorb orientation meetings forever, they need that cap space savings..
I’m sure Joe never thought Steve Young was ready either in their ice cold relationship..
Yeah, Joe and Steve truly didn’t like each other but most of that is on Walsh. He was to stubborn about wanting Steve to take over sooner than he should have and it caused dissention between everyone involved. I didn’t know to what degree it was until I watched that Montana special on Peacock.
Funny thing is, Young thought Lance should have started this season.
I’m in same place Chuck, at least give him more games to get up to speed.
He barely got the training wheels warm.
If Shanny wasn’t comfortable this season, I don’t see how much changes by September.
Is what it is now, Jimmy’s money is a major factor now.
New thread is up.