A (Fugly) Win!

Richard Sherman said it best. He said “It was a win but it felt like a loss. The defense played like crap in the second half.” He’s right. the 49ers had a 17 point lead with 11 minutes left in the 4th quarter,  and had Detroit pinned back deep facing a 3rd and 17. Ahkello Witherspoon, who is the guy with the target on his back, as no one seems to want to throw to Sherman’s side, was torched for a 65 yard pass to set up Detroit’s first 4th quarter score. Witherspoon had a holding call, a PI (which could have been called a push-off), and gave up two TDs after missing most of practice with week with a bad ankle.

Jimmy G, who had a horrible game last week, had a much improved game. 18-26 206 yards, and a couple TD tosses, yet he nearly gave the game away with an absolutely horrible throw to Matt Brieda running an out route near the sideline. The easiest route for a corner to jump. Garoppolo did make the tackle to save the touchdown, but Detroit was called for a holding penalty on Greg Kittle and the play was overturned. As was a punt return for a TD earlier in the 4th quarter by Detroit.

Bright spots were Matt Brieda, who cranked out big runs of 20, 22, and 65 yards to get the 49ers to their 17 point lead. Kittle kept his game-with-a-drive-killing-drop streak intact as he dropped what would have been a first down. Celek made a nice catch and drag into the end zone on a nice call by Shanny to throw a quick slant to him on 2nd and goal. The 1st TD came on another nice call, having Kendrick Bourne lined up in the backfield and no one picked him up as Jimmy hit him for an easy score.

However, 2 red zone drives stalled early, the biggest one being the fumble forced by Elijah lee on Stafford that was recovered by Cassius March on the 18. Garoppolo, whose quick release wasn’t as apparent yesterday, was sacked 6 times for 50 yards in losses. He seemed averse to throwing into coverage even though he had plenty of time on most of the sacks he took. Mainly on our first drive to the red zone.

First and goal from the 9 turned into 4th and 27 after two needless sacks and a 0 gain run. As  I said, Jimmy played better, but he still is learning the game. This was start #9, and he has to do a better job of feeling pressure and knowing where and how to either slide away from pressure, or simply get the ball out and not take the sack. The only sack that made sense was when we were trying to get the 3rd and 8 to run out the clock. Taking the sack allowed the clock to keep running. rather than an incomplete pass to stop the clock. That got rid of 45 seconds.

What does this mean for next week? Nothing. We are a young team finding our way. We played tough but sloppy against the Vikings, and played sloppy and inconsistent against Detroit.

Looking at KC next week, they of the Pat Mahomes Experience, one would think we will get slaughtered. It very well could come to pass, but they have given up 65 points in 2 games. it’s not like they are shutting anyone down. We just need to GET PRESSURE. 2 sacks on 53 pass attempts is not nearly enough. Detroit had 6 sacks on 26 Jimmy attempts. Buckner looks to be the most consistent guy on the line. But we seem to get shoved out of every rush easily. We run the same stunt over and over. There is NO pressure up the middle. Stafford is no Elway, and like I said, he had 53 passes.

The Niners were lucky Stafford missed so many deep passes. He could have easily thrown for 400+ yards as his team dropped 4-5 passes that would have set them up for the tie at least.

A win is a win, but we are still suffering rowing pains. I may have been a little premature in my assessment of this team, but then again, the season is young.

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31 Responses to A (Fugly) Win!

  1. unca_chuck says:

    I think the Vikings are a much better team than the Chiefs, and the Chiefs have played 2 teams that are not good defensively. Pittsburgh should have lost to Cleveland for God’s sake. san Dawg isn’t any defensive juggernaut either.

    Again, though it comes down to the pass rush. If we can’t get pressure on Mahomes, we WILL get torched. That being said, Reuben Foster will be a VERY welcome addition to the lineup. Elijah Lee was dogshit, and the rest were mediocre. Getting Brock Coyle back as well would be a huge upgrade. We missed a lot of tackles, and guys got extra yards that they shouldn’t have. That shit HAS to be cleaned up by next Sunday.

  2. Lurker John says:

    Keeping with yesterday’s funk theme and as an homage to the late, great Clyde Stubblefield, we have this funk masterpiece:

  3. Lurker John says:

    Sure, Reuben is going to help, but probably not so much with rushing the passer, which is the biggest problem. The D has been pretty stout against the run, even with Reuben out. Witherspoon was flat out awful yesterday and made all kinds of mistakes in his reads and coverages.

    30-13 early in the 4th quarter. That was the good. Everything that happened the rest of the way was the bad. No pressure whatsoever on Stafford, who’ll torch anyone when given enough time.

    Good running game yesterday, from Breida and Morris. Jimmy G much better and made a number of terrific throws, but not good enough and holding the ball way too long on multiple occasions. He has to start throwing the ball away when there’s nothing there. Pass blocking also needs to be better. Hopefully Goodwin can go next week.The dropsies were there again, too, KITTLE. Pettis made the one big catch and that was it.

    I guess I’ve let my own expectations get the best of me again, because I expected the team to look a lot better after two games. What they’ve shown is that they still have a lot of holes and things to work on. It’s a win and that’s good in this league, but it was indeed quite fugly.

  4. Lurker John says:

    And some blues fun from the excellent Mr. Clark. Loving the SG action:

  5. unca_chuck says:

    Yeah, I’m with you there, LJ. But the season is young, and I think Foster’s (and Coyle’s) presence will improve the defense across the board.

    Saw Gary Clark Jr. open for the Foo Fighters a couple years ago. Excellent show from Mr. Clark.

  6. Winder says:

    LJ- Love the James Brown, he was a special talent.

  7. Irish Kevin says:

    Listening to knbr this morning a guy on there says last year with JG the Niners had nothing to lose and they just went out there and played, no pressure. This year teams have 5 games they can study JG . It is not that JG has regressed it is a bigger play book and teams have a better idea on what to expect. So this is more of JG just learning the game. And IMO the first thing the QB coach needs to do is teach him to get his reads quicker and Throw the ball away when nothing opens up. Also I did not notice if JG had a RB that could have rolled out after his blocking assignment. Does not appear he had that option.

    • Winder says:

      That does make a lot of sense. We haven’t held onto the ball long enough for opposing D’s to make adjustments so until we can sustain some drives they will just keep bringing it. Last year the Titans blitzed just about every play and we survived that. Now they are loading up one side and it has just stifled us. We have to make adjustments for that.

  8. unca_chuck says:

    Yeah, there wasn’t many outlets on the sacks. but that first drive he held the ball WAY too long. A couple others were just shitty blocking.

    These guys are outstanding

  9. unca_chuck says:

    NE trades for Josh Gordon. 5th round pick, or NE gets Cleve’s 7th round pick if Gordon isn’t active for 10 games.


    We shoulda done it. Low risk high reward.

  10. Lurker John says:

    That makes sense to me too, Kevin, and Chuck, it is early and I think it’s safe to assume the team will continue to improve as the season wears on, though this Sunday is going to be tough. Reuben’s energy and intensity will be a welcome addition. I expect some big hits from him.

    After we talked about the shortened camps and fewer reps the players are getting these days, I’ve noticed a lot of sloppy, mistake-filled football in all the games I’ve watched, so it’s not just the Niners. The Vikings cut their rookie kicker today after his disaster of a game yesterday that cost them a crucial division win against their arch rivals. When asked about it, Zimmer said, “Did you see the game?” The Not For Long league indeed.

    Lots of dropped passes and missed tackles all over the league. Did I miss 12ths game day report, or did he not post it yet?

  11. alleykat69 says:

    Yeah lots of FG kickers are sucking pole this year.Browns dude needs to go, choked 2 weeks in a row, Pittsburgh’s Boswell missing extra points and FG’s it’s been ugly around the league! Thank God we have made ” Money with are Gould” who’s been lights out!!
    Their was supposedly 4 teams who were after x-Cowboy Dan Bailey who was holding out for the best deal, decided on Vikes, no dumb move there, being a SB contender..

  12. unca_chuck says:

    Bears need to seal this deal. They have dominated this game yet are only up 7. 5 sacks in the 1st half? We should have gotten Mack while we had the chance.

    Although Prince Valiant may not have wanted to see him go across the Bay

  13. unca_chuck says:

    Counting on the Bears is a losing proposition.

  14. Winder says:

    I hate it when we play sloppy but I just got to remember it’s year 2 and we are moving in the right direction.

  15. unca_chuck says:

    Russ Wil with the Jimmy G memorial throw there. It happens to the best of them I guess.

    Seattle looking at 0-2.

  16. djloo27 says:

    I don’t know what to make of the Chiefs just yet especially on defense. I can say that in the 54 years I’ve rooted for this team they’ve never had anything resembling Mahomes. They never even had a top 10 QB since the merger – by which time Dawson was aging and banged up. Montana was way past his prime and I don’t even want to talk about the others including all the ex-49ers that they love to collect. Andy Reid loves his new toys, but until proven otherwise he’s in the Marty Schottenheimer, Gene Mauch, Dusty Baker club – as in he ain’t ever gonna win it all…

  17. 12th Man says:

    Ok, things I think I know.
    The stadium was 80% full, fans were rowdy on 3rd downs all game long.
    Jimmy G was gun-shy at times and took 3 sacks that were on him. I wondered about this last week, whether the picks would make him gun-shy, they did. At least one sack was a coverage sack and it might have been 2.
    Dante Pettis gets 1/2 step to a step open a lot.
    Warner is a potentially great LB, he is in on a ton of plays, once he and Foster get a few games under their belts I can see a second coming of Willis/Bowman.
    Breida stole the show but Morris got those real tough yards without enough blocking, they make a good tandem.
    In the first half Kyle called too many slow developing plays, which on top of JG playing carefully meant taking sacks or missing tough throws. He sped it up in the second half with some quicker plays and it paid off.
    Sherman is a damn blanket on his guy, no surprise they didn’t test him.
    Colbert still looked slow/hurt.
    Juice is underused in the passing game.
    Kittle is outstanding, could end up being one of the best TE in the league.
    Not many sacks, 2? But in the first half they got good pressure. Second half very little.

    Team played pretty well overall. Jimmy G needs to stay with his instinctual game, playing timid is not suited to him. Run game carried the day. Defense was a bit of a head scratcher, too up and down. All energy or none and I have a feeling Witherspoon is in over his head.

  18. unca_chuck says:

    I almost feel bad for Seattle. They have no weapons to help Russell. Their line is shit, and they did nothing about it.


  19. unca_chuck says:

    Yeah, I’m with ya, DJ. I’m not as all fired high on them as some are on KC. Especially because of their defense. Mahomes looks real good, but they haven’t played a tough defense yet. Not that we are, and we’ll probably lose, but Mahomes is doing now what Garoppolo did last year. And that is to surprise people.

    For us, it’s all about the pas rush. 2 sacks on 53 attempts is not gonna cut it at all. KC has more balance, and this will be a giants test for our defense.

    • djloo27 says:

      Mahomes has so many weapons and seems pretty unflappable in his short time.
      Ultimately though, it was the defense that won the Steeler game for them.
      They’ve been revamped some. No more Tamba Hali, Derrick Johnson and of course Peters…

  20. unca_chuck says:

    Nice report 12th. It sounded pretty loud in there. But its hard to tell from TV. And they never showed Sherman’s play as they never threw to his side. I figured as much that he was doing a god job but we never saw it. The Niners need to leave Sherman on his island and give Witherspoon more help. Guys are getting open too easily and Tartt a couple times had 2 guys to cover and didn;t cover either.

    Too many times there are 3 pass catchers and 2 defenders. Selah has to scheme better or we will get killed.

  21. Winder says:

    chuck-we will probably get killed in this one no matter what we do.

  22. unca_chuck says:

    If we can run successfully we can keep their offense off the field.

    KC is dead last by a wide margin in yards per game given up. As in 508. They’ve given up over 1,000 yards in 2 games. 29th in points allowed.

    These facts give me hope we can score on them.

    Once again it is all about our pass rush. Hit Mahomes and we can stop them.

  23. unca_chuck says:

    New thread is up…..

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