Why isn’t George Seifert in the Hall of Fame? He has more wins than Bill Walsh, a .766 winning %age with the Niners (98-30), two Super Bowls as a head coach, two Super Bowls as a DC, and one as the defensive backs coach. A DB coach that ushered in 4 rookies to lead the 1981 Niners to their first Super Bowl. and of the brighter defensive minds the game has seen. His teams were regularly in the top five defenses in the league.
To top it all off he used to usher at Kezar, and went to Polytechnic across the street. Sure, his tenure coaching the Panthers was a bit of a trainwreck, but the Carolinas were still taking baby steps as a newly formed franchise. He got them close to the playoffs in his first season, at 8-8, they then went 7-9 but cratered to 10-15 in 2001, and he was fired.
Sure, he also followed the formula put in place by his predecessor, one Bill Walsh, but his 1994 Super Bowl victory was his doing, and he and Tom Flores are both still waiting for their call to the hall.
And . . . Happy Father’s Day to you dads out there. . . .
Double digit winning seasons every year with the 49ers.
Also Don Coryell should be in as well. One of the most innovative passing minds in the game. But that’s me . . .
A lot of people are still pissed that we got rid of Montana and the fact that he never could adjust to Green Bay. Other than that his record speaks for itself. He should be in the HOF someday.
Seifert wasn’t a HOF HC. He was like whatever show followed Seinfeld on teevee. Good ratings but mostly from what someone else did.
You don’t give Gruden credit for winning with Dungy’s team, do you? But he has more claim to credit than Seifert does, at least in his first SB win. In his second, despite all his defensive expertise he needed to bring in Deion Sanders as a hired gun temp to make it happen. And oh yeah, and he helped Steve Young (spit) stab Joe in the back.
If you want to make the argument for him as a DC you might have a case but as a HC, not.
In the end it doesn’t matter much. Everything with lasting importance and meaning about pro football is being disregarded, discarded or turned into so much commercial/PC bullshit anyway. Why should the Hall of Fame be any different.
I liked the Hall of fame better when there were only 15 greats in it too !
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Yeah look how well Barry Switzer did with Jimmy Johnson’s team. Or Callahan did with Gruden’s Raider team. Inheriting a great team may engender success but to sustain it is something entirely different. Like saying Steve Young rode into Canton on Joes coattails. He had enough success on his own to get there.
I mean really, no one even knows who John Bengsten is. Les Steckel ring any bells? Sean McDermott? The only guy who HAD near the success that Seifert had was Tom Flores following Madden in Oakland.
Or Jimmy Johnson following Tom Landry.
Get off my lawn!
Yeah, I noted somewhere some of that stuff. Mainly that I think we are vastly improved in the defensive backfield. Team speed is much improved, and having an offense that scores points will also help. Better offensive weapons, a fresher and deeper d line, and hopefully a return to form for Jeremiah Attaochu.
If AA is the beast some think, his 2nd year in the same system should be a plus as well. Same goes for all of them. And it would be great to see DFB have a breakout season.
I think our biggest issues will be around the health of the players. Armstead has to be able to stay on the field. Ward is already hurt, how badly I don’t know but that seems par for the course. If Sherman can come back that will be a big plus. I am really looking forward to seeing the new kids play, especially Harris if Lynch says he’s a thumper then you know he is. It kinds looks like KS went after the wrong guy in Joe Williams from what I have read the best he can do is make the PS. Just goes to show the transition from college to the pro’s is hard to do.
And….Year to year the College Ranks get graded on who’s available Winder.
As I’ve mused about my Primary Physician over the years, even the ‘D-student’ in Med School can get the sheepskin in the end.
My Doc is as timid as a church mouse when it comes to having an opinion on anything but, he wears a stethoscope around his neck and has the appropriate credentials to practice.
He won’t be the guy I’d turn to to save my life in a pinch however.
Being the best College player in a weak field doesn’t make you the De-Facto ROY in Aprils’ Draft Class unless the hype sells it first.
Give me the Blue-Collar lunch pail guy in RD3+ who wants it and, has something to prove.
I was talking to a guy in Wisconsin named Bengston back in 2001. I forget his first name. I was working for a bank and buying mortgage loans from him. Turns out he was Phil Bengston’s son. His full name was John Phil Bengston. He went by the name Phil. His son asked me if I knew who Phil Bengston is, I knew! We got along great after that. BTW, he is also a former 49ers D coordinator.
Bengston I remembered. The others I had to look up.
Johnson completely rebuilt the Cowboys from a shit team into a champion. The Cowboys were awful when he got there.
Yeah, but on the whole Landry was a very successful coach. The point was not too many coaches who followed legends did very well. Johnson being an exception.
New thread is up . . .