Shit is Getting Real

The 49ers just signed Pierre Garcon to a 3 year deal that I hear is $16 mill per? Shanny really likes him some Garcon. He of course was Shanny’s big signing when he came to Washington a few years ago.

Not quite sure if that is the real number, but holy shit, what this says to me is that we are going to go after Kurt Cousins in a big way. Shanahan appears to be in the process of creating the Resdskins West.

This isn’t necessarily a bad thing, but it certainly ratchets up the pressure on everyone in the building. A team that has been a laughingstock and one that would have been given rope to build slowly is now looking like they want to forego any gradual process and burn through the cap money in a big fat hurry. Again, not necessarily bad, but this team is all of a sudden looking at a 9 win season being a failure should Cousins show up amid the spending frenzy.



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66 Responses to Shit is Getting Real

  1. Winder says:

    I dunno about Cousins. We should be able to get him next year for his salary and not give up a huge pick this year. It is possible if we get this years 17th from Washington. I like that Garcon(sp) goes over the middle. I always liked him with the colts and he did get over 1000 yards last year. But he only scored 3 TD’s. That is a little worrisome. Anyway, he has endurance and is a proven threat on the field.

  2. unca_chuck says:

    I don’t know. This is a pretty hefty expenditure to do. You’d think there would be more than Hoyer coming out of this.

    Then again, who knows? Like I said earlier, actually using the cap money is much better than sitting on it.

    • Nipper says:

      Well we all know what sitting on cap money brought us. Losing and more losing. Baalke knew how to lose with all his bad moves. But at the same time he was under the cap!

  3. Nipper says:

    Hoyer is reportedly being signed …….anyone know anything?

  4. Irish Kevin says:

    Yep Hoyer, is in the news

  5. Irish Kevin says:

    They also cut Torrey Smith

  6. 12th Man says:

    Scottie McDrinkie done in Washington.

  7. 12th Man says:

    Busy time, Niners signed a QB, 2 WR and a pro bowl FB.

  8. unca_chuck says:

    I’ve been saying Hoyer for a while now, and it appears this is the deal. This doesn’t really change the situation regarding Kurt Cousins, but at least we have A quarterback.

  9. unca_chuck says:

    12th I just heard this morning about a butting of the heads between Bruce Allen and Scotty McDrinkypoo in DC.

    Didn’t know it was that bad or what the deal is with him, but the dude sure can draft though.

  10. Lurker John says:

    A flurry of moves. After the Baalke years, it feels like a tornado.

  11. alleykat69 says:

    Hoyer Sucks!!
    Can’t believe they went with this chump even if it’s a stop gap. To bad Buffalo restructured a deal to keep Tyrod Taylor who would of been a lot better fit for the 49ers imo..

  12. winder says:

    I don’t know a thing about Hoyer but I am guessing KS does. If he see’s something useful in him so be it. At least we aren’t starting Kap or Gabbert.

  13. Berger says:

    McDrinkle being ousted in Washington must be Jed’s fault.

  14. unca_chuck says:

    Hoyer ain’t that bad, AK. And he’s certainly better than the current crop of nothing that we got.

    Even still, Hoyer very well could be backing up Cousins here.

    • Nipper says:

      Hoyer is strickly a back-up. He’s been on 7 teams so far if I’m correct. That’s a back-ups journey. Never good enough to stick anywhere. Still just surviving and getting a job in this league is a positive for anyone.

  15. Berger says:

    Hoyer is going to be a one year starter or a back up. For that role he is a good signing. There is no possibility he is considered the long term solution.

  16. 12th Man says:

    GM Lynch is off to the races in FA. This is something Baalke had to do last year to try to save his ass, he just didn’t, and he is gone.
    Who knows if all the new blood will pan out but what could be worse than last year?
    Stories of happy players after getting a beating is a terrible thing and I don’t see that happening under Lynch and Shanny, those boys are serious about winning.

  17. alleykat69 says:

    Why didn’t the 49ers make a pitch for TE Martelius Bennett?? Instead looks like the Raiders are going to swoop in..

  18. unca_chuck says:

    TE shouldn’t be too difficult to round out. I guess free agency has officially started.

  19. Irish Kevin says:

    Hopefully Hoyer is the backup!! 31 years old!! No no to starting. Charlie you already know how I feel about picking up old dudes for baseball!!

  20. winder says:

    Dawson’s now a Cardinal and so is Bethea(sp)

  21. unca_chuck says:

    I like the guys they are cutting. nd I like the guys they are signing. As I said earlier, Shanny may say he doesn’t want a stopgap QB but that’s exactly what Hoyer is.

    Free agency so far is NUTS. Texans trade Osweiler to the Factory of Sadness, aka the Browns. A nonsensical move in my head, but really. The GM loves the deal. For the 2nd round pick.


    And oh yeah, we got some QB.

    The Texans are trading quarterback Brock Osweiler and a 2018 second-round pick to Cleveland. They take Osweiler’s $16 million guaranteed salary off of Houston.

    The Texans also get a Browns fourth-round pick (no. 142) this year in exchange for their own sixth-round pick. Cleveland gets Osweiler’s contract, a 2018 second-round pick and a 2017 sixth-round pick, and Houston gets Cleveland’s 2017 fourth-round pick and saves $10 million in salary-cap space and $16 million in cash this season.

    Unreal. There’s talk Cleveland may just turn around and cut him. Or work out a trade (!). Yeah, right. He and Jay Cutler can compare exorbitant salaries for doing nothing.

    Osweiler = $16 mill guaranteed for this year
    Cutler = $2 mill

  22. unca_chuck says:

    If you haven’t seen Spotrac, it tracks player contracts.

    This made me throw up in my mouth a little

    He’s made $112 million in his career? Jesus H Fucking Christ!

  23. unca_chuck says:

    With Cutler, Kappy, Glennon, Fitzpatrick, G Smith . . .

    That’s a lot of iffy QBs on the market.

  24. unca_chuck says:

    What we’ve done so far:

    Pierre Garçon WR Five Years
    Marquise Goodwin WR Two Years
    Robbie Gould K Two Years
    Brian Hoyer QB Two Years
    Kyle Juszczyk FB Four Years
    Logan Paulsen TE One Year
    Malcolm Smith LB Five Years

    Didn’t hear about Goodwin or Paulsen

  25. Winder says:

    I don’t get why we let Dawson go for another old timer in Gould, but I do like the Malcom Smith acquisition. I was kinda hoping for some more fireworks today but after seeing what some of these guys are getting paid it might be a good idea to wait for the dust to clear. There are still a lot of bodies out there to be had.

  26. alleykat69 says:

    Well the QB’s are settled!!
    49ers are adding Drum 🥁 Roll
    Matt Barkley and the hits just keep on coming..

    • Winder says:

      Yeah, getting Da Bears castoffs isn’t that inspiring. But it’s still better than Kap and Gabbert.

      • 12th Man says:

        Not sure what’s expected of Lynch and Shanny. The team has no QB’s and will need 4 for TC. Cousins and Garoppolo both mean giving up high draft picks and mega bucks this year (Cousins probably isn’t available period) or just megabucks next year. Considering the state of the roster, I’m fine with waiting a year and fixing other areas this year. Almost certainly they will take a QB in the draft too.
        Which available FA QB’s would you rather see, they are all meh guys as far as I can tell?
        I think we fans need to be realistic and have a little patience.

        As far as the rest of the team goes these guys came out guns blazing, no waiting for the second wave of FA for them (Baalke), no picking over the bones for a scrap of meat (Baalke), they got guys before FA even started.

        Serious as a heart attack. I love their approach so far.

      • Lurker John says:

        Absolutely 12th.

  27. Nipper says:

    49ers must be going for the bargain basement QBs. Must be looking to draft someone instead.

    • 12th Man says:

      I am pretty sure they draft someone but my best guess is it will be a lower down the draft developmental guy and they will wait a year for Cousins or similar.

      At least that’s what my crystal ball told me this morning, who knows about tomorrow?

  28. Nipper says:

    Texans were fortunate to get rid of Osweiler’s contract. Cleveland was very helpful to pick that thing up. Now they can get the brittle Romo.

  29. Winder says:

    I am fine with Hoyer and Barkley this year. like I said it’s way better than Kap and Gabbert. KS has a plan and we don’t know what it is yet, so I am along just for the ride.

  30. unca_chuck says:

    Yes 12th, this is pretty much what I thought would happen regardless of what Shanny said about the placeholder QB. And me getting ahead of myself amid the flurry of activity.

    I think we go after a Zack Terrell type. A 5th or 6th pick. We have a bunch of lowe picks so it is worth the risk. He’s a pro style QB who won’t be learning how to play behind center at least.

    Next year, depending on how things shake out, we can make a bigger QB splash.

    The thing I like is these guys (Shanny/Lynch) are going hard at this. I got a little giddy and thought they may go after Cousins, but he’s a red herring that will be available next year at less than half the price.

    • 12th Man says:

      Chuck, I read today Cousins says he will be a Niner this year or next, which adds pressure to the Skins to try to do a deal this year or only get a 3rd or 4th round comp pick next year and end up having a disgruntled QB in 2017 who has already said he is gone next year. Incidentally Cousins ranked 8th overall last year.

      The Niners have signed or agreed to contracts with 12 players so far. Of course some are for depth/competition, but as a percentage of the 53 that is a huge number. It really allows for BPA in the draft now which is an ideal place to be. I really am impressed with this approach, its dynamic and aggressive in an effort to be competitive in the league. I have no illusions of playoffs, that would be far above reasonable expectations, but they should be decent even in this first year. I also love that FA players are choosing to go to the Niners, a sea change from after the Harbaugh years.

      One more point. Kudos to Jed York for handing over the checkbook unfettered. Not a hint of anything from Paraag or Jed. Just the dynamic duo doing their thing.

      Here are the players so far:
      Pierre Garçon, Marquise Goodwin and Aldrick Robinson, quarterbacks Brian Hoyer and Matt Barkley, full back Kyle Juszczyk, tight end Logan Paulsen, linebacker Malcolm Smith and kicker Robbie Gould.

      Prior, they signed defensive tackle Earl Mitchell, receiver DeAndre Carter and defensive back K’Waun Williams.

  31. unca_chuck says:

    Very well put 12th. I thought they’d spend but I didn’t think they’d be this aggressive.

    Thing is though fortunes can turn around quickly in the NFL. Depending on the rest of the NFC 9-7 could get us in.

  32. Lurker John says:

    I’m really surprised Cousins would say something like that to the press. We’ll see how that affects his standing with his teammates heading into this season. With that, I wouldn’t mind seeing him in a Niner uni at all. He’s a good QB and whether it’s as a starter keeping the seat warm while a future draftee develops or not, you could make a playoff/championship run with a guy like that. Overall, I’m also pleased with the way Lynch and Shanny have taken the bull by the horns and well before the draft. Also glad to see Jed staying out of it, which is exactly what he needed to do. Put good football people in place and stay out of the way. Go Niners!

  33. Winder says:

    I kinda wish we would have picked up Schaub(sp) but the Skins made him a pretty good offer. Other than that I think we are taking the right approach and work through the draft. I imagine we will pick up some more FA’s before then but probably mostly for TC competition.

  34. Nipper says:

    Cousins wants out of Washington with his plea to the owner and his public desire to head to the 49ers hoping for a trade. Perhaps something can be worked out if the parties are agreeable. Cousins desire to play elsewhere is a PR nightmare for the Skins. Of course their whole operation is a disaster from the owner on down. It’s like rats fleeing a sinking ship. 49ers in contrast are now like a model franchise even with Jed as the owner.

  35. Winder says:

    It’s to fucking quiet.

  36. unca_chuck says:

    Well, I think you can trace the fleeing of the ship in Washington straight to the power struggle between Bruce Allen and Scotty McLoughan. With Scotty out, I’m sure the players are put off by it. He has drafted well at all his stops and Bruce Allen has a spotty track record at best.

    • Winder says:

      We’ll see how they do at draft time. should be interesting.I think Mcloughan was the guy who picked Gore and Willis, definitely two of SF’s greats.

  37. Winder says:

    one more

  38. NJ49er says:

    Might be a good sign that McCloughan is out of the picture, in terms of negotiating any deals on Draft Weekend.
    Bruce Allen will be under Little Danny’s pressure to do something about paying $24M to Cousins on a 1-year rental perhaps?
    Cousins is likely taking advice from his Agents, to put it out there ahead of the Draft, to turn up the heat.
    DC holds 10 Picks, as do we.
    Flipping some slots could work? Just not early on the Board IMO.
    Danny and Jed are both worthless Owners anyway.
    Read recently that Danny is holding a major grudge with Shanny Sr and, isn’t likely to do any favors for Shanny and SF.
    Cousins’ comments about landing in SF should put an extra kink in his shorts too.
    $24M is a very good incentive package to get his attention in that regard.
    They can’t sit him, like they did with Danny’s pet RG III, to protect themselves with the ERFA Tag either.

    • NJ49er says:

      Picks comparison –
      SF 49ERS 2 34 66 109 143 146 161 186 202 219
      DC Danskins 17 49 81 114 124 154 201 209 220 235

  39. NJ49er says:

    Would love to see LB Haasan Reddick make it to our slot 34 in RD2 too.
    Pick 2 is wide open. Jon Allen or either of the 2 Safeties, Hooker/Adams would be a great start.
    Corey Davis is my Joker option if we slide back for an extra Pick.

  40. Nipper says:

    First Day of Daylight Savings……….turn the damn clocks ahead!

  41. Nipper says:

    NBA season turned into a farce in San Antonio last night. They may as well steal the fans wallets.

  42. unca_chuck says:

    The schedulers should be shot, Nip. 8 cities in 13 days.

    Kerr penciled that in as a rest day at ge start of the season.

  43. unca_chuck says:

    NJ, the thing about Cousins is Snyder does not really want to help any of the Shanahans and trading Cousins to us would do just that. Wash has NO leverage at this point and I expect a lowball offer for Kurt at some point in the immediate future. Wash stands to lose him entirely next year as:

    a) He wants out
    b) He wants to be with Shanahan
    c) He’s a free agent

    So, Washington is forced to make a hugely outlandish move that still may not get Cousins to stay in DC, or they let him walk next year without any compensation short a comp pick in 2019. Washington just lost their GM a couple days ago, and everyone short of Terelle Pryor, is fleeing the sinking ship.

  44. unca_chuck says:

    New thread is up.

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