Kyle Shanahan, Future Coach (?)

Or is he? Kind of excited? Sort of guardedly optimistic? Shit, I don’t know. We were in this situation a couple years ago when hotshot upcomer Adam Gase was 3/4 of the way through the door to be our new head coach. Seemed like a great idea at the time as he was young and new. Not a retread like Kelly or even a never-was like Jimmy Bag-a-donuts.

So, here we are on the precipice of signing another young coach with a bright future in Kyle Shanahan. He of the Atlanta Falcons high flying offense. Of course they are still playing, so nothing can be signed, but it is supposedly all but a formality. So was Gase. My point being, until the ink dries, it isn’t. The ghost in the machine (or the rat in the bell tower) may still have some wrenches to throw in the process. Least of which is to get a GM.

Eliot Wolf is out. He, like HC prospect Josh McDaniels,  used the vacancy to get a raise. I’m supremely glad McDaniels isn’t coming, but Wolf would have been nice. He was mad that GB didn’t let him interview for the Detroit job last year, but GB wants him to take over for GM Ted Thompson, who is retiring soon. They like him so much he’s gotten 3 promotions in 5 years. The guy on the radar now is Brian Gutekunst. In fact, the Green bay Gazette reports that Wolf wasn’t really considered because Gutekunst was the front-runner all along.

Sources there report that Young Jed said of Gutekunst “The owner says he’s Scot McCloughan without the drinking problem.”

Stay classy Jed. Jesus.

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33 Responses to Kyle Shanahan, Future Coach (?)

  1. Nipper says:

    Jed must go…….Baalke is gone. Life goes on ……….stay happy.

  2. Winder says:

    Jed truly is a moron. If anyone can fuck this up, it will be Jed. At least with the new blood we have a chance at being creative. But until Shanny signs it’s just another day for something to go wrong.

  3. Flavor says:

    Gutekunst already re-signing to stay in GB. So, the search basically starts over again. The Niners are fucking inept.

    • 12th Man says:

      Paton and McDonogh are the 2 remaining GM candidates, as good as the 2 from GB that leveraged more money and new contracts from this process. McDonough has been my personal fav but has been the least talked about and he has had KS at the top of his list of HC from the start..

      Either of those 2 and Shanny the Younger would be ideal. Now if those 2 drop out its a shitfest.

      Maiocco reports that Shanny the Younger does not insist on final say over the roster so that is not why people are withdrawing.

  4. 12th Man says:

    This was the quote from Maiocco:

    “The 49ers are expected to hire a general manager next week that will be matched with Shanahan. A source close to Shanahan told that Shanahan is not insisting on full control over personnel and is fine working together with a general manager, on whom he would lean, to execute the plan with free agency, trades, the draft and determining the 53-man roster.”

    If this is true the Niners will land a top talent GM.

  5. unca_chuck says:

    Hate to say it but it is hard to fault Jed (other than his overall ineptness) for not landing these guys. They took the leverage provided by the opportunity to get raises and or promotions. As did a few others.

  6. Berger says:

    Just get a GM who knows the importance of a NT in a 3-4 alignment.

  7. unca_chuck says:

    Hmmmmm, are we really gonna see Mike be the GM for his son?

    Strange days indeed.

  8. Berger says:

    I’m predicting McDonough at GM because he has already stated he would want Shanahan as coach, Shanahan because I think we all know this little secret, Gus Bradley as DC.

  9. Berger says:

    Our personnel looks to me to be a 4-3 defense. If the 49ers want to run a 3-4 we need a NT and a pass rushing OLB who can actually get to the QB and another MLB..

  10. Winder says:

    If we do get Shanny I bet we finally get a GB that can play. We need an offense that can stay on the field for awhile. I don’t think anyone knows how good our defense can be they were so banged up from being on the field so long, it’s a wonder some were still standing. And, i thought many of the players didn’t give 100% as the season wore on. This team needs an enema in the worse way. Time to re-fuckin-build.

  11. NJ49er says:

    They sure aren’t lining up to work for Tweeter and The Money Man are they?
    We get ‘winners’ by default.

  12. NJ49er says:

    I can’t locate some of the original articles I’d read, going back to the Gase hiring efforts but, here’s a pair that shared similar accounts of what transpired.
    What it suggests is that Jed made his GM look foolish, for doing the job he was hired to do, find football guys.
    The desire by Gase to retain Fangio was a MAJOR objection to what I recall reading from one or more reports.
    It was suggested that ‘none of Harbaughs’ guys’ were welcome to stay.
    They (Jed/Paraag?) wanted Tomsula for DCo, Gase preferred Fangio.
    Baalke worked hard to recruit him, he was overruled in the end.
    Leaving it to Baalke to rescind the offer.
    Typical dysfunctional (spineless) York BS.

    49ers wanted Adam Gase to keep Jim Tomsula as defensive coordinator, per report

    Greg Papa: 49ers had “verbal agreement to give it to Adam Gase … Jed backed out.”

  13. Nipper says:

    Looking back is a very cold meal. Look forward to a better day and new people making the decisions.

    • NJ49er says:

      Agree Nipper. It’s simply a reminder that the most important guys in this process are still at the wheel.
      We need more football guys, less football guy wannabe’s.
      They seek approval, and the services from the guys that know the game, yet they disrespect everyone of them by the way they do business.
      Hard to find reasons for optimism I’m afraid.

      • NJ49er says:

        In cases such as those reported surrounding the Gase hiring efforts, it really doesn’t matter who wears the GM title.
        If they hang him out to dry, there’s little to be optimistic about, in terms of what the new GM will be allowed to do.
        This charade is getting old.

      • 12th Man says:

        NJ, I linked what Adam Gase himself says happened and you linked this:
        ““What I heard yesterday was that they had a verbal agreement to give it to Adam Gase. And they were going to fly him out here and at the last moment, Jed backed out,” said Papa.”
        See the first three words of that sentence?
        3rd person accounts are not equivalent or a realistic counterpoint to first person testimony in any arena. You put this stuff up as though it carries the same weight, it doesn’t, not even close.

        I get you don’t like Jed York and Paraag Marahte, that is perfectly clear. I don’t particularly like them either, but this crusade to defend Baalke who failed as a GM badly and was eventually fired, using hearsay to counter actual first hand testimony is seriously lame.

        I’m done with this now and moving on. Look forward to talking about other subjects with you.

  14. Berger says:

    I think getting Shanahan could be the best hire of all the new coaches. It is for sure that he is an excellent offensive coordinator. His play design is fantastic. He had Seattle’s defense look like they were blowing coverages. They didn’t blow any coverages, Shanahan just knows what he is doing. We’ll need a good QB but he did make RG Knee the Rookie of the year, developed Kirk Cousins, had Cleveland at 7-9 and will make Ryan the league MVP. If he can do the same as a head coach we are in good shape.

    • 12th Man says:

      Agree Berger, Shanny the Younger was my first pick but I doubted the Niners would land him. The best play caller in the league and as you say has gotten the best out of his QB’s even though they are completely different types of players. An OC that can tailor his O to the players he has on roster is a huge improvement IMO.

      • Berger says:

        That’s how I see it 12th. I don’t know who the best play caller is but we haven’t seen one in SF like Shanny for a long time.

  15. NJ49er says:

    12th I’m simply giving some additional perspective to the conflicting reports that surrounded the Gase hiring efforts.
    You might see it as a crusade, I see it as a dysfunctional process, that others in the media have called attention to.
    Whether you see my efforts as lame is your opinion. I’m sharing some of the reports that brought me to my opinion.
    I’m defending what Baalke was paid to do and, was subsequently undermined for doing.

    What this amounts to is, 2 Execs who still remain in charge, going through yet another HC replacement process.
    I’m simply praying that the next GM isn’t treated in the same manner.
    I’m perfectly fine with how you viewed Baalke’s tenure and, would agree with you on many of his shortcomings.
    Many a report has been shared regarding the role Paraag plays in this Power Trio, all of which suggest that then GM Baalke, was being short-changed in his scope of duties by Paraag/Jed when it came to handling football Ops.
    Rejoice in the fact that Baalke is gone, as you clearly didn’t approve of his efforts.
    I simply think he got little to no help on the football Ops side.
    Be open to the fact that he didn’t control where the money was spent or, that he didn’t fire the HCs he was attempting to build rosters with.
    Until they cede football Ops control to qualified football Execs, I can’t see anything positive occurring anytime soon.

    • NJ49er says:

      Several reports have already come out during this hiring process, that suggest Paraag’s involvement isn’t being accepted openly either.
      Yet, he still remains deeply entrenched in the process.
      I simply don’t get it and, I see it a major detriment to recruiting above average candidates.

  16. Nipper says:

    That stupid owner of the colts just made his HC a lame duck. What a joke. Another nepotism owner who is basically a jackass.

  17. Winder says:

    I believe the only reason that Shanny Jr signs with us is because he really wants to. I don’t know why that would be but I am sure there is a lot of interest around the league with him. It might be old family ties, I don’t know. But if he decides to go elsewhere i think we are gonna be in a real bad place.

  18. unca_chuck says:

    Regardless of who did what with Gase, and i’m sure we’ll never get the real story, there’s obviously a problem in the front office. Eddie said it in 2010 and it hasn’t changed. No direct lines of communication and no cogent strategy. Too many people with too much input.

    The GM needs to set the tone. Not the clowns in the exec suite.

    New thread is up.

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