UPDATE: The 49ers have signed Christian Ponder (who hasn’t thrown a pass in a couple years) to the roster to take Thad Lewis’ spot as cannon fodder.
Well, game one is in the books. Didn’t count, and there’s not a hell of a lot to glean from it, but overall, at least we looked like a football team. Contrary to popular sentiment, we didn’t trip over our dicks out there. Well, not until the 3rd/4th stringers started playing.
Overall though, the line blocked well on runs and passes, Gabby missed easy passes, Hyde, Droughns, and especially Davis, ran all over the Texans defense, Thad Lewis is out for the year. Kaepernick still hasn’t played a down and I think he passed Gabbert as the starting QB.
The DBs looked great until Osweiler left, then they didn’t look as good with the presumptive (and should be) starter Tom Savage playing (the Houstons are going to look pretty stupid when they bench the guy they just spent a fortune on).
Us? Things didn’t look as bad as they could have. I guess that’s a positive.
You know him. You love him.
Jesus. What an asshole. The Donald Trump of coaches. You reporters and your questions.
I liked Ponder the year he came out. I want to see what he can do with a coach like Kelley !
Look at him
Well I guess by next year he’ll either have a national championship or be wandering around the dumpster behind 7-11 with a shopping Cart collecting cans and talking to himself really loud lol
Jim lol
Hey I guess Dennis is happy. He was bummed when we didn’t draft a QB early in 2011. Now we have three of the six available . Gabbert, Ponder AND Kap lol
That, and $5, will get you a cup-o-Joe at Starbucks Rob!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If we get jake locker we’ll have corners the market on gage disappointing QBs in the 2011 draft.
Look at it this way,
It could’ve been Tebow.
Sanchez is working on a 2yr $9Mil Contract in Denver.
What are the odds of swapping Kaep for Sanchez before the plane leaves Denver Saturday night?
SF pays the difference and takes Sanchez to Backup.
Any other Compensation that might be negotiated would be gravy.
Omg that’s hilarious. Dennis would be ecstatic ! LOL
Just kidding DEL.
I do remember Locker was Spitblood’s man. We just had to draft Locker or we were a laughing stock. Lol
Come to think of it was there a good QB in that draft ?
Andy Dalton and Cam Newton come to mind Rob!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tyrod (Ball Joint) Taylor and Ryan Mallet came from that Class also.
I’d almost rather have Ponder than Sanchez lol
Benefit #1 for Sanchez.
He ran Chip’s System already.
Benefit #2
He’s cheaper than Kaep
Benefit #3
He know how to hold a clipboard
Right NJ
Cam was out of reach but I remember we did like Dalton coming out but ended up with Kap
I’m not convinced Kaep wants to be in SF, simply because he negotiated to leave in the off-season.
He simply didn’t want to leave for less money.
Now, he’s a Tradeable Commodity.
Maybe so
Hey did you know we just signed Christian Andrew Ponder.
So now we have Kap and CAP
Lol
Ponder that!!!!!!!!!!
I was a Ponder guy, btw. I thought he was going to prove his worth in Minn and he fizzled.
Ah, I suffered a computer wardrobe malfunction – wireless mouse died. Did I mention how much I HATE computer wireless accessories? It’s not the first device I’ve lost. They cost a bloody fortune in batteries. Meanwhile I have these USB ports collecting dust. OK, problem solved – LONG LIVE WIRES!
I won’t nitpick Sando’s QB ranking list now, but I will give my primary criticism. If you gave me, Pat The GM a choice: Brees, Romo and Ryan (Sando Tier 2) or Carr, Bridgewater, and Winston (Tier 3) I’ll take the young guns and laugh for the next decade of playoffs. Carr is a stud, point blank. He still has a tendency to make rook mistakes; after a fantastic game, he threw the game-losing INT in the endzone against the Broncs last year. OK, but his Raiders BEAT the Broncs in Game 2. How many teams did that? Bridgewater has AP but did everything needed to win his first ever playoff game against a very good Seahawks club – not his fault his kicker sucks. Winston? – all the promise in the world. You keep your old white guys and enjoy your fantasy league. They’re still good for that.
Sanchez played for Chip last year. He stunk.
Kap had multiple injuries last year and a pinhead coach. I still believe it was the combination of the Aldon Smith’s ex fiasco ( a mistake he may never get over) and his LEFT shoulder injury that did him in. He feared running, especially to his left, which was a huge strength. He had been the most dangerous QB in the league, run or pass, to his left. He’ll be the starter if he wants it. Check that – Kelly wanted Badford and Sanchez over Foles and Tebow. Chip is not the guy I go to for QB selection advice.
Jeff Fisher is 6-15 at making the playoffs. That’s a 28.6% rate. PURE RANDOM CHANCE is 37.5%
Guess what? He’s negotiating a contract extension with the Lambs. Whew – we have the Seahawks and Cards, it’s nice to have one pincushion.
Marvin Lewis is gunning for season #12 without a playoff win.
Buy rechargeable batteries, RTF.
Wow. 3-1 count. Derp!
Sorry that was for the Giants game.
Football can’t come soon enough.
RT that’s my concern in a nutshell with Kaep.
Aldon, Nessa, Coaching not withstanding, DOES he want it?
Seems to me the money was what he wanted.
Otherwise, Denver gave him an out.
Which, as we know, he turned down.
In Denver, he would have what he had under Harbaugh.
A dynamic Defense to keep him in games and, better WRs to compliment his once strong arm.
NJ, Kaepernick signed a team friendly deal with the caveat the team would keep other talent. They didn’t and lots of talent left. He was then trashed by the whisper campaign and eventually benched.
He’s the one who was burned. Twice. I don’t blame him one bit for trying to get out of here. The team fucked him over and left him holding the bag.
I have no doubt that he will do what he can to help the team win. To call him out for being greedy is missing what went down these last 3 years.
Chuck I’d like to see him succeed.
I question his desire to prove he wants it.
We know the ‘team’ consisted of meddlers with an agenda.
It’s the reports of his work ethic that have me leaning away from his desire to win.
No whispers involved there.
It was Romanowski that called him out on that point.
Joe also chimed in on his aloof personality.
Not a good label for a QB in any locker room in the NFL.
27-36-1. And Fisher gets an extension? This is a prime example why they’ve missed the playoffs the last 11 years.
Meanwhile, Hue Jackson ( who was my choice to replace Tomsula) has to beg for a job in Cleveland. GO RAMS!
Yeah, they are in LA now where anything goes and I do mean anything. I always thought they shoulda divided the state, like the Carolina’s.
I still want 60 states, so Californians have as many senators per capita as Wyoming.
Aloof personality? What does that even mean? Most quarterbacks, at least the successful ones, are assholes. Shit, Joe was accused of being aloof. Dan Marino screamed at his linemen all the time. He was a whining asshole. Beyond that, they are long gone, NJ. They have no idea what is really going on inside the locker room. It’s all speculation.
Dilfer and others have said Kaepernick has done his due diligence studying film, yadda yadda yadda. In fact the team has said he’s spent a lot more time with the coaches due to his rehabbing his injuries this offseason.
What does it all mean? Nothing. If the team wins, he can be as fucking aloof as he wants.
Yeah winning solves everything. Kap should take Gabbert. These pre-season games are a good practice and nothing more. Kap knows this and probably will play little in pre-season.
Kap has to actually play for anything to happen in that regard, Nipper.
Kappy’s’ still not throwing. Problem is he looks better than the guy who is throwing.
If he gets IR’ed or some shit, I’m gonna lose it.
Who do you think has the real control over who does or does not play, Kelly or Jeb??
it better be the Chipski
It had better be Kelly. If this is coming from above, then this team is worse off than the Cowboys. And will be for, oh, the next 10 years.
If Kappy don’t play I doubt we win 3 games
Just for fun
http://www.leedberg.com/mad/quotes/quotes.html
Not to change the subject but Matt Cain sure sucks especially in 5th inning. Damn is he bad! The Giants have to find another pitcher this season if Cain can’t get past the 5th inning.
Russell Wilson = Kaepernick in that scenario you paint, NJ. Kaep missed it by one play. Wilson is on a team with a strong defense that runs well. He’s a running QB who has decent but not spectacular throwing numbers. Now that the run game and defense isn’t as good, Wilson struggled. I think they fall even further this year. Did Wilson get worse? No. The team around him did. When there isn’t any blocking, Tom Brady looked like shit last year. Did he suddenly forget how to play? No. All it proves is that a shitty offense has a lot of obstacles to overcome to be good.
I’m not absolving Kaepernick of not needing to improve, but I am saying that he has played at a high level, and can again given the right circumstances.
Kappy does have flaws but at the moment he’s the best QB we have.
Chuck I’m simply questioning the motivation factor with Kaep.
Is it about winning and leading or, hanging on for the money?
No question last year was an aberration.
Nothing made sense, nothing was organized, nothing worked.
However, his desire to be traded has to raise eyebrows.
Whether it had anything to do with the Aldon/Nessa reports we’ll likely never know.
But, if the reports about his film work and aloofness were factors within the locker room, it simply complicates an already shaky relationship with the other playmakers on Offense.
Not seeing uncovered WRs, for example, has nothing to do with physical abilities.
It’s a mental awareness thing.
We can’t get any sort of read on him right now because he’s done nothing to challenge Gabbert thus far.
Whether there’s a physical situation or not, I can’t see them paying his Contract to hold a clipboard anymore than I can see him stealing the starting job in just 3 weeks.
I’m thinking Trade or bubble wrap right now.
If it comes to that,well, we,re fucked for 3 years at least. Unless we get Deshaun Watson. Even then……it’s a crapshoot.
My point is this is the team fucked him over bad when he negotiated in good faith. I certainly get him looking around. Frankly I thought he would go to Denver n a heartbeat. No matter the money. But here we are. Elway banked on that as well and it didn’t work out.
He isn’t getting traded til he gets on the field. If he gets on the field, I think he starts in pretty short order because Gabbert is a stiff.
I guess if Kap is injured there is some kind of conspiracy. Haters will hate. Just calling it as I see it.
Let the guy get healthy and compete for the job. It really is that easy to understand. He is getting paid no matter if he is here or gone. The net result of keeping him or cutting him is zero difference in dollars to the team.
Why would Denver trade for an injured player and pay full price? If he is still injured now imagine how it was back when the trade was proposed. I would imagine if healthy Denver pays the full contract. Not knowing when a player can play discounts any contract. But the haters will hate.
If the O-line looks like it did in the first half last week we will be a good team. Something tells me they won’t be quite as good this week. If we can back up last week’s performance by the starting O-line for the next 2 games this team will go into the regular season with me expecting to have a winning record. Unfortunately, I think last week will not be repeated this week and it will be back to reality.
Fuck, maybe there’s a Christian Ponder in our future.
If Tim Tebow has a Deep Thought, is it a Christian Ponder?
I been saying it ll along, Bergs. With Kappy and a good line we can do well. The defense looked pretty good, but then again, Osweiler sucks. Savage will be starting in Houston by week 6 if not sooner.
IOW it’s early but there’s reason to at least be a little encouraged.
I’m not making any predictions on Kap. I’m rooting for whoever wins the competition. I got off the Kap bandwagon when he asked for a trade but that doesn’t mean I am rooting against him. I still think he can be a great QB but to do that he’ll need to get healthy and get his head right. It seems his head is right. No way to know that without being there. Obviously he needs to get healthy.
berger- I feel the same way. If Gabberts our starter D’ will be foaming at the mouth to get him. And, our O-line probably won’t be able to take the beating.
They announced Kap won’t play Saturday. I reckon his chances of starting are slender at this point.
Funny thing is, in Denver, Trevor Siemian is winning the QB battle over Mark Sanchize. So far.
PFT is reporting Kappy is on schedule to return to action in week 3 of the preseason. Curious to see how Gabbert handles this upcoming game. With competition from CP, and possibly Kappy next week, we’ll see if he can hit a 4 yard fucking swing pass.
And Buwwitt is busy scouring the internets for any article that disparages Kaepernick. He’s like a little dog with a chew-toy.
Davis is finally working with the ones…at RG
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/08/18/49ers-give-anthony-davis-snaps-at-right-guard/
Bullitt is a raging pussy, a tiresome little man. If Gabbert can’t win this no contest QB battle this weekend he is worthless.
I prefer Kap but you can’t evaluate what you can’t see.
His own idea apparently
http://www.sacbee.com/sports/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/article96412992.html
Yeah, thought I saw that last week, 12th. Good move. I think Brown played well at RT. AD may not be ready to play RT, as he got burned on an outside speed rush, but he should be fine in the interior.
Get to see Saturday against a very good D.
Buwwitt;s new chew-toy is Bill Walsh’s insistence on drafting a QB every draft. Well, nope. Not even close.
1979 saw the man draft Joe in the 3rd round.
Uh, yeah. 1980 saw Bill draft that football powerhouse Cal-Lutheran QB Dan Hartwig drafted in the 9th round. Didn’t survive camp.
1981? Joe Adams, a 12th round pick put of Tenn St. 0 NFL snaps. Changed his name to Bryan and became a Canadian Football and music star.
1982? 9th round pick Bryan Clark out of Mich St. played one game, 0 attempts, as a pity draft, being Monte Clark’s son. Changed his name to Bryan Adams and became an MTV sensation.
If you call the Walsh era 1979 to 2004 there were the above 4 and:
Scott Barry, 6th round1985 – 0 NFL snaps
John Paye, 10th round 1987 – 0 NFL snaps
Dorian Hagan, 9th, 1992, 0 NFL snaps
Elvis Grbac, 8th – Hey, a guy who played. 8 years
Jim Drunkenfucker, 1st, 1997 – Stifferoonie. 1 season
Gio Carmazzi, 3rd, 2000 – Turd – 0 NFL snaps
Brandon Doman, 5th 2002 – Didn’t make it out of camp 0 NFL snaps
Ken Dorsey, 7th, 2003 – Dead-as-a-doornail, undistinguished 5 year career
Cody Pickett, 7th, 2004 – 6 games over 2 years. 18-45 Huzzah!
13 QBs in 35 years. Let’s do the math. That;s 22 years that Bill and Co didn’t draft a QB.
1 HOFer
1 with a decent career (Grrrbs)
1 with an undistinguished career (Dorsey)
2 that barely made the show (Drunkenfucker, Pickett)
8 with no NFL game experience.
What does it mean? Nothing, except that Buwwit is an idiot who doesn’t know anything about football, Bill Walsh, or drafting in general.
I’m thinking of changing my name to Bryan Adams and buying some Canadian bacon!
Isn’t Canadian bacon just ham? I think the only time I’ve had it was with eggs Benedict. Shit, now I’m hungry.
You knew someone was gonna do it
The SF Giants have lost so many close games lately it is like they play just good enough to lose. They should change their name to the DeBergs!
You fucking ignorant bastards with your lack of football knowledge, especially when it pertains to the QB position, make me sick to my goddamn stomach.
Chuck said, ” Tom Brady looked like shit last year.”
That preposterous comment doesn’t even warrant my usual witty, sharp and biting retort.
Fucking mook.
To think you people are still holding out hope that Kap will be this team’s savior is rib-tickling comedy. Listen to me, and listen to me good:
Colin Kaepernick is fucking G-A-R-B-AG-E.
Sad thing is Blaine Gabbert is stinks on ice garbage.
And I will be openly rooting that Anthony Davis breaks his fucking neck each and every snap he takes the field. He had to take a year off because he was worried about more concussions.
Boo-Motherfucking-Hoo. His teammates didn’t QUIT for a year. They were still out there busting their hump and risking injury each and every day.
What A.D. did was akin to do what if your grandfather would have done in WWII when he landed on Normandy and told his fellow brothers in arms, “You guys go ahead. I’m gonna kick it here on the beach for a year. I’ll catch up with you guys next year in Poland.”
Fuck that motherless son of a fuck.
And one more time just because…
Did we sign Peyton Manning yet?
As bad as Chuck’s most recent comment about QB’s concerning Tom Brady was…
It wasn’t even close to his all-time best…”We’re better off with Alex Smith” (than Peyton Manning).
On a separate subject…Hillary Clinton is going to be the next president of the United States.
And Berger hasn’t committed suicide yet? There must be a shortage of “bullits” in Reno.
Dennis- Now I have to root for Kap just to drive you mooky!
Staley and Beadles left side
Brown and AD right side
with Kilgore at C sounds like one heck of a good O-line to me !!!
Good to see it was Davis’ idea too !
Garnett at LG
Same old Jim Harbaugh, never satisfied:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/08/19/estimated-value-of-jim-harbaughs-life-insurance-policy-75-million/
Interesting. Jesus.
New thread is up. I’ll copy this over, 12th.