Aaaaak! In a very revolting turn of events, the 49ers have hired Chip K-K-Kelly as our head coach. Sure, I give him a hard time for being percieved as a racist coach who got rid of a bunch of black guys on his team. Those facts are out there for alL to see. What his reasoning was behind all those curious moves in Philly now become front and center with the 49ers. His trade of LeSean McCoy for the eventual signing of DeMarco Murray proved to be an unmitigated disaster. Nick Foles for Sam Bradford yielded little as well. After being traded, CB Brandon Boykin said Kelly was ‘uncomfortable’ around the grown men of his culture. LeSean McCoy of course started this by saying Kelly was “getting rid of all the good black players” from the Eagles.
Be that as it may, I ruminated a couple weeks ago that it would be mildly interesting to see how a Colin Kaepernick/Chip Kelly offense would work. Seeing as Kelly didn’t have the kind of QB in Philly that he wanted in Sam Bradford or Nick Foles, he now has two guys at his disposal who could conceivably run his high-speed offense. I never in my wildest nightmares thought this would come to pass, but here we are.
Frankly, I’d love to see Kappy in the driver’s seat of this, but I’m pretty sure Baalke has other ideas about giving money to a guy who got benched/injured (pick your order) last season. Gabby may be able to pull it off, but he showed his limitations last year as well. And given the underlying tendencies of our newly minted head coach, does Kappy even stand a chance to stay?
Beyond that, since Kelly has a recent track record of demanding more and more control of the roster (he may not have called himself the GM, but he was solely responsible for the personnel decisions in Philly after all), is THAT Jed’s intent? To position Kelly as the instrument of Trent Baalke’s demise? Hey, anything’s possible in this cown show.
Strange Days have found us.
San Francisco 49ers Forever 
This pretty much rules out Jared Goff as our #1 pick.
Weird video I’ve never seen before. Look for Ray Manzarek in this a couple times. I think the midget is from the original album cover . . .
Saw Ray once in that, a few seconds short of the 3 minute mark walking in line. I had a chance to see him in a one man show about 2 years ago, but forgot about buying an advance ticket, and missed the show. He died about 6 months later. Kicked myself. Loved the Doors, his keyboards were unique, definitely a signature sound for the band. The guy was no mauler on the ivories. A real musician…
Lets welcome Kappy back! Yea team!
And, for good measure:
A real Doors video:
With new coaching hire, Niners went from a dumpster fire to a dumpster fire in a fireworks factory.
V escaped the locked bathroom! He’s using the “home’s” computers again.
Welcome back to the land of the living EzyE.
It’s time for Chuck to let out some choice BLEEPS!
Woof!
Chuck, another ridiculous move by an incompetent organization. Every year they take us further away from our identity of who were are and what made us great. What about Ben McAdoo? It’s his take but he still runs the WCO. Sean Payton would be a dream come true. Josh McDaniels? David Shaw but he already turned us down and I can honestly say I can’t blame him.
Hell Even Harbaugh said when he was hired, “We will install the West Coast offense in San Francisco, birthplace of the West Coast offense,” he answered. The problem was that like him stating before he just made Alex Smith our starter, “I’m going to search the whole world over, unturned every stone to find our starting QB. As we all know none of these things happened.
Sure one of the leading reasons we have more downfield passing is we used to have just pass interference and unnecessary roughness, Now we’ve got pass interference, unnecessary roughness, illegal contact, defenseless receiver and helmet-to-helmet hits and like everything when you alter the sport getting a penalty way down field is now a part of the game plan instead of just moving the ball down the field because of great talent and not looking for help from the referees. Now Veteran quarterbacks like Brady, Drew Brees, the Mannings (Eli and Peyton) and Ben Roethlisberger know if they throw it down the field now, there’s a real good chance something good is going to happen with a flag thrown on every play.
Regardless the Giants defensive coordinator Perry Fewell says West Coast passing remains a staple for some quarterbacks like the Dallas Cowboys’ Tony Romo, for example, Rodgers, Brady and Brees as well. The Patriots essentially are running the West Coast offense why can’t we? What they call it the WCO because of Walsh and the 49ers no longer even run an altered version of it?
Like Reid said, “Sure it looks different now we were kind of in that part of the evolution when we went to Green Bay.” Seattle coach Pete Carroll said. “The new West Coast offense is similar in concepts, passing-wise, but the running game is nowhere near where it was. And that’s what made that such an extraordinary offense.” You can still find the West Coast offense in nearly every single playbook in the league. The keys to the West Coast Offense are still apparent today, just as they were under Walsh in the 1960s, 1970s, and 1980s. Again we needed to clean house and no house cleaning was even attempted.
Instead of you accepting anyone Jed Hires as our new Head Coach or Continuing on the Kappy Path to nowhere you should be thinking of a West Coast Offense guy that would come in here and re-establish a form of Walsh’s Offense and creating a new Joe Cool. How do we find that guy when we’re looking in the wrong places? Instead we have a QB like Aaron Rodgers and Mike McCarthy running the WCO in Green Bay instead of us. They blended new-school tactics with Montana-era West Coast offense principles to the Packers that made their offense great. They’ve taken the Packers, the old West Coast offense, and the quarterback position into the modern age while Jed sitting around with his thumb up his ass.
What are you doing about it, V? Whining like a 4 year old isn’t working. This is your fault entirely. YOU. You wait for everyone else to do things for you like an entitled little bitch. And that’s what you are. An entitled little bitch. You blame everyone for things you didn’t ever stop. Why, V? Why? You held the keys but pussed out. You’ve done nothing to stem the tide of stupidity and ignorance. Like a chickenshit whiner.
Beyond that, who should we get to install this offense? I mean now. Not in 2005, you brain dead turnip. You keep saying we need to do things but you NEVER offer any idea or ways to get things done. As usual, you talk for hours without offering anything of substance. Just your whining.
Yeah, the WCO is out there. Others are using it. Other aren’t. Big fucking deal you moron. Again, who do we hire to get out of this rut? Which GM? Which HC?
All I get from you is crickets. Well, that and your childish whining.
BLEEP!
How come you didn’t come up with Ben McAdoo before he was hired? Payton didn’t leave the Saints, so how do we get him? David Shaw? You are as dumb as a bag of dicks. He runs more than Harbaugh. Harbaugh didn’t run the WCO, you idiot. He ran a power run game. You watched for 4 years and came up with that? There was lip service paid to Harbaugh and the WCO but it never came to pass.
I’m sorry you understand so little about the game. Go back under your rock, dumb-ass.
Not thrilled by the chip Kelly deal. Does anyone know gow much the contract was
Interesting
49ers coaching history
Coach
Years
Record
Jim Tomsula*
2010, 2015
6-11
Jim Harbaugh
2011-14
44-19-1
Mike Singletary
2008-10
18-22-0
Mike Nolan
2005-08
18-37-0
Dennis Erickson
2003-04
9-23-0
Steve Mariucci
1997-02
57-39-0
George Seifert
1989-96
98-30-0
Bill Walsh
1979-88
92-59-1
Fred O’Connor
1978
1-6-0
Pete McCulley
1978
1-8-0
Ken Meyer
1977
5-9-0
Monte Clark
1976
8-6-0
Dick Nolan
1968-75
54-53-5
Jack Christiansen
1963-67
26-38-3
Howard Hickey
1959-63
27-27-1
Frank Albert
1956-58
19-16-1
Norman Strader
1955
4-8-0
Lawrence Shaw
1946-54
71-39-04
BLEEP!
Heard tell Kelley’s fast paced offense leaves the defense on the feild too long ?
At first I was anti Kelley based on his woeful performance with his players and personnel decisions in Philadelphia.
Now i’m hearing he went out of his way to let it be known he wasn’t looking for control over personnel ?
Anyone know how much we offered Kelley ?
I was liking Jackson and Shanny better.
Hope we weren’t low balling again.
If you look at the list of coaches only a few have winning records. Shows it is difficult to win. So let’s see what Kelly can do!
Get better players if the team wants to do better. Coaching can only do so much.
Yes if they don’t get an O line it does not matter what offence the Niners run!!
The good on Kelly is he had 20 wins in two seasons in Philly. IRISH
His offense ranked in the top three two years in a row and he’s an offensive minded coach.
I think he can get the best out of Kaepernik.
Now all we need is a top tier defensive coordinator and we might be on our way!
Funny thing about our OL. I feel good about the combo of Staley, Boone and Kilgore
I think we found two good players on the right side late last year. Tiller and Brown both looked pretty good to me. I really like Brown. He’s 6-8 345 and moves real good for a big guy. Funny thing is Anthony Davis might come back next year too. If he does we might just want to add one more guy at RG
Don’t forget we pick 3rd , have 12 picks and about 40 mil in cap space !!!
3rd?!
Well, shit. Kelly was the one guy I bitched about, but he’s the coach so I’m ready to get behind him and start moving forward. Not that it’s setting the bar very high, but he’s a sight better than Jimmy T. I’m a little concerned about what Rob said, about Baalke not ceding personnel control. In Kelly’s case I think that’s a mistake. Baalke NEEDS to lean on Kelly when it comes to acquiring offensive personnel, because Baalke’s suckitude in that area is well documented. I don’t know how the arrogant prick wouldn’t do that. Offense is Kelly’s rice bowl and not using him to evaluate talent would be insanely stupid.
You guys know this, but even bigger than hiring Kelly now is who he brings in for his coaching staff. If he gets that right, we may be on to something.
Fuck it, Chip Kelly is our coach. If he can figure out a way to beat the goddamn Seahawks, I’ll be a happy man.
Can I have a GO NINERS?
Well, shit. Kelly was the one guy I bitched about, but he’s the coach so I’m ready to get behind him and start moving forward. Not that it’s setting the bar very high, but he’s a sight better than Jimmy T. I’m a little concerned about what Rob said, about Baalke not ceding personnel control. In Kelly’s case I think that’s a mistake. Baalke NEEDS to lean on Kelly when it comes to acquiring offensive personnel, because Baalke’s suckitude in that area is well documented. I don’t know how the arrogant prick wouldn’t do that. Offense is Kelly’s rice bowl and not using him to evaluate talent would be insanely stupid.
You guys know this, but even bigger than hiring Kelly now is who he brings in for his coaching staff. If he gets that right, we may be on to something.
Fuck it, Chip Kelly is our coach. If he can figure out a way to beat the goddamn Seahawks, I’ll be a happy Niners fan.
Can I have a GO NINERS?
Rob, that’s assuming Kap ends up being the guy. Gabbert runs very well and has a strong arm like Kap but with more accuracy. I’m still not sold on the idea that they’ll pay the millions to bring back, but I guess we’ll find out soon enough.
Oops I mean 7th
Imho Gabbert is a Cadillac
Kap is a Ferrari
We’ll see how price plays into it
Meanwhile Tomsula is probably pumping iron at a nearby gym. Jed pays off well.
Good, fine with me. Now let’s hope we pony up for a top grade staff for Kelley
I’m not happy or sad with this move. In one way this is move reminds mem of hiring Harbaugh, a genius coach who has a hard time getting along with co-workers. Hopefully he will stay clear of personnel power plays. Fix the line because Chip loves to run the ball.
Saw this, and I was surprised.
“He is just the second 49ers head coach since the 1970 AFL-NFL merger who has had previous NFL head-coaching experience (not counting Tomsula, who was an interim coach for one game before his hire). The other was Dennis Erickson, who went 9-23 in 2003 and 2004.”
Kelly already has a connection with Niners senior personnel executive Tom Gamble, who had been with Kelly in Philadelphia.
Win, lose, crash, or burn, at least we won’t be boring.
mayday! mayday! We’re going down! mayday! mayday! Hey get me some life insurance….quick!
I don’t really know much of anything about Kelly. Wait and see for me, I am glad that the organization finally made a decision. We will all know more when we see who falls from the tree.
But if he was the mastermind of the Foles, Badford deal then there is not a lot of hope for the future.
At this point, Kelly (4/$24 mill) is making noise that he only wants to focus on football. That he got sidetracked with personnel decisions and it fucked up last season.
20-12 out of the gate isn’t bad, but Philly in 2012 was a lot like the 49ers before Harbaugh. A talented team (4-12) that had tuned out their head coach.
Neither Foles or Bradford were what Kelly wanted as a QB. I’m still convinced he wanted to deal for Mariota last year and it didn’t come to pass.
Kappy and Gabby both fit his style more. What this means for Kappy is anyone’s guess. What it means for the team is growing pains.
Cool stuff, Snarkk. My older sister got to see the Doors a few times in SF. One of the most unapologetic bands who traveled their own road. No one sounded like them before or since.
If I’d only been born 6 years earlier . . .
One of my all time favorite bands. But some of those times back then were foggy. If memory serves I think I saw them with Country Joe an the Fish.
One thing good about those times was it didn’t cost you a lot of money to see these guys. For years the Fillmore only cost about $3 to get in and you usually saw 3 different groups. Same price as a sugar cube.
Hah!
chuck- I have been reading a little more about Kelly, it actually could be a lot of fun. Or not.
Go Ducks!
I still think the QB to keep is Gabbert, he showed mor accuracy in his passes. Sure Kap is faster when he runs, but as he starts to run will he continue to look down the field for an open man? Wilson does very well starting to run but is always looking down the field. Last year I just didn’t see any progress from Kapp, even with his off season work.
Send Kap packing!
Agree, Kappy needs to improve drastically.
Do you take a chance and pay him the $7 mill? Or whatever he is getting after April 1
Jed is generous.
That’s the big debate, Kevin. It’s around $11M they’d have to pay out. Gabbert proved that he runs and runs well. He had that long TD against the Bears and numerous other effective scrambles. Like you said, he throws well on the run and has more of a tendency than Kap to keep his eyes downfield. He ain’t the magic elixir, but I’d like to see him get a shot.
My concerns about Kap are mainly whether he can get back to where he was or not. He was so fucked up by the time they benched him that I don’t think it looks good, regardless of the coach. He was utterly lost. This from a guy who, in the Super Bowl year, had two huge comebacks, on the road and in the playoffs, from two 10 point deficits against Atlanta (a great win, IMO) and a 22 point deficit that fell just short against Baltimore in the SB but was still a great comeback (I pin that one on Harbaugh, et al).
Last year’s Kap looked like a completely different player. We’ve all talked about it ad nauseum here, but until the OL is shored up no QB will succeed in S.F.
Maybe they do bring him back and Kelly can work with him. Fingers crossed I guess. It’d be a great story if they can pull it off. If not, the whole goddamn organization might implode.
Interesting take on the Niners/Kelly/Kaepernick situation:
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14574629/chip-kelly-work-san-francisco-just-did-coaching-philadelphia-nfl
That was a well written article, especially about whether Kelly is a good coach
Well, they gave Tomsula 10 mil, What the heck I would try for one more year with Kappy. If nothing else we have someone who can run the team if he has too and the upside is a lot better.
I would still draft a QB in Rd 2, Cleve is gonna drfat Goff with there pick but if he’s still there at 7 I would take him.
Yeah, I’d still take a QB, but with Chip here, Goff makes little sense. he’s not a scrambler/runner type. Neither is Wentz but I like him out of N Dak St. He’s looking at high 2nd round now.
Like I said, Kappy’s ceiling is much higher than Gabbert but at $9 mill more he’s a lot more pricey. Gabbert is a placeholder at best, while Kappy HAS won big games before. Who knows if he can get back there, but I’d do it
New thread is upupupup
1. Emmanuel Ogbah, DE, Oklahoma State, 6-4, 275, 4.76, Redshirt Junior: Ogbah was recognized by Big 12 coaches as the conference’s top defensive lineman a year ago and was even better this season, leading the Cowboys in tackles for loss (17.5), sacks (13) and forced fumbles (three) to earn co-honors with Baylor DT Andrew Billings(12th on these rankings). Ogbah isn’t just productive but also gifted and versatile, boasting an exciting length, power and agility
j49er any thoughts ?