Medic ! ! !

Well, the once overabundant amount of running backs has been waylaid by the injury bug in 3 short days. First, Marcus Lattimore was placed on the PUP list last Wednesday, due to a combination of his previous knee injury, and a more recent hamstring injury.  Then on Thursday, Kendal (endzone) Hunter blew his knee out in a non-contact drill. Then of course, on Friday, LaMichael James, a guy who would have likely gotten more looks with the other injuries, turned his good fortune into a dislocated elbow, and he’ll be out for a month.

Other than that, C Marcus Martin, Bruce Ellington, OLB Aaron Lynch, and DL Kaleb Ramsey were also PUPed. Martin and Ellington both suffered minor ankle injuries, and they should be back pretty quickly. No idea ’bout the other guys. I really want Ellington on the field as much as possible.

Anyhow, who among you think this is a bit of a blessing in disguise? Sure, Gore looks to be the starter, and Hyde the backup, that was pretty much set in stone. But Hunter was a good change of pace guy, but not as elusive as LMJ, but that’s a different can of worms. Either way, the lack of depth could force the coaching staff to look to the passing game more than they might have. Having a healthy corps of WRs certainly is a change from previous years when we had scrubs and decoys.. This could be looked at as the next step in the growth of Colin Kaepernick as  quarterback as well. Give him more options to evaluate, and have him read the field more rather than the one-read-and-run that was apparently the usual play design.

I’m not too concerned with these injuries, other than Hunter. For his limited role he brought a different skillset than Gore. Either that, or we have a Jewell in the rough . . .

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160 Responses to Medic ! ! !

  1. unca_chuck says:

    Hate to go back to holdouts and contract squabbles, Michael Crabtree is apparently unhappy with his current deal (no surprise), but he’s on his last year. He wants to cash in big time (no surprise) and is grumbling because the Niners aren’t going to go anywhere near what Crabs wants. They want a team-friendly deal like Kappy signed. Good luck with that.

    Looks like a holdout next year . . .

    Hard to determine his true value since Boldin is the same kind of guy, and he puts up solid numbers, but he isn’t a speed burner who can take the top off a defense. He’s a possession WR. He’s no DeSean Jackson or Dez Bryant. Then again, how many deep balls do we throw?
    Again, this goes back to offensive philosophy. Yadda yadda yadda. Which is why I REALLY want to see Ellington out there.

  2. unca_chuck says:

    This Crabs thing has the potential to blow up into a big issue, as Kappy signed HIS deal to make money available to keep Crabs. If the Niners don’t keep him, what will that do to Kaepernick?

    The Niners very well could lose both Crabs and VD after this season, and his team-friendly deal doesn’t help keep those guys? He’d be pissed I’d think.

    This season certainly has more than it’s share of off field and front office drama when you throw in all the Harbaugh hoopla from earlier.

    This may be their last best shot depending on how everything goes.

  3. Spitblood says:

    With Stevie Johnson here Crabtree’s deal is no longer the “all important” deal I was once saying it is. Stevie looks to me to be just a cut below Crabtree. And while I’m sure Kaep isn’t thrilled to be potentially losing targets in VD and Crabs, nobody thought a by-product of the team-friendly deal Kaep signed would be enabling him to dictate who stays and who goes.

    I don’t think it’s a holdout situation next year for Crabtree. If the 49ers aren’t re-working his deal now, they’re either letting him go or they’re anticipating using the franchise tag to create leverage so they can negotiate with him after the season is over. In my opinion, Crabtree’s stuck. Kick ass this year for a big payday next year, or be a malcontent and watch your stock plummet. It’s doubtful Crabtree becomes a malcontent even considering his rocky beginnings.

    The big, more underlying issues is, with all these players not happy with their current contracts, whether or not the team will continue to be a contender for the Super Bowl. If players aren’t as motivated, it’s hard to compete for Super Bowls. It’s great that Baalke has created leverage behind Boone and Crabtree; however, you never over-leverage or the whole thing falls apart.

  4. Alleykat says:

    Well the guy moving up to get a big dose of action is gonna be Hyde IMO.
    With Hunter out for the year, .James atleast a month are longer, and Lattimore obviously not ready physically and mentally,Hyde’s gonna see a lot of action spelling Gore( keeping him fresh as possible) as a receiver and tough yardage plays.

  5. unca_chuck says:

    I’m fine with that, AK. The big issue for Hyde is to not turn into Dr. Jeckyll when he’s blocking.

    • Alleykat says:

      As long as Hyde doesn’t turn into Lawrence Philips,Kappy’s season are career won’t end as well!!!

  6. Spitblood says:

    Jesus….running back blocking, blocking, blocking….. so overrated.

  7. Spitblood says:

    What did I tell you knuckleheads in the weeks leading up to the draft? I said the 49ers should consider taking two running backs. I’d much rather we drafted another running back than the sure-fire bust waiting to happen, Aaron Lynch. He makes Johnny Manziel look like Peyton Manning. (What I’m implying here Unca is that Aaron Lynch is a problem child). Just FYI.

    • Alleykat says:

      Shit Spitty , How many backs is enough?
      Gore,Hunter,James, Miller,Lattimore,Hyde,Dixon,Hampton that’s like that old show Eight is enough!
      Shit should we go get McFadden,Charles, McCoy and maybe the fridge for belly dives at the goal one as well?

      • Spitblood says:

        I told you before and I’ll tell you again – Our running backs suck! Lattimore is only 18 months away from a gruesome injury. I think he needs more time. Gore is done. James is too small. We need more all purpose backs. Bruce Miller, in my opinion, sucks. I’m seriously hoping Trey Millard beats Miller out. And Dixon, btw, is in Buffalo. Trust me… the 49ers’ biggest weakness is we don’t have a good backfield. Baalke didn’t do enough this off season to improve that. And that’s not hindsight. I was saying it before the draft.

  8. Nipper says:

    I’m ready to jump from the Bridge this situation is so dire. Damn after the Giants debacle this weekend what’s a guy to do? I’d scream out “Mommy!” but alas…. she’s gone too.

  9. unca_chuck says:

    They did draft 2 RBs.

    • Spitblood says:

      They drafted a running back and a full back. They needed two running backs and a full back.

  10. NJ49er says:

    Chuck a minor blessing in the Crabtree situation could easily be found in VMcD.
    If he shines well enough as an all-around TE for us this season, you could consider moving Vernon and his Contract $$$ next year, to free up Cap space for the Iupati/Crabtree extensions.
    If they re-up VD, it too will be done with Cap restructuring in mind for the same reason.

    I agree with Spit on Stevie too.
    I feel Baalke made that deal as an insurance move against Crabtree’s possible departure as a FA to begin with.

    • NJ49er says:

      And there’s always the consolation prize with both Iupati and Crabtree.

      Being as we aren’t known to overspend, Comp Picks for 2 former 1st RD Draft Picks wouldn’t be too hard to swallow.

  11. unca_chuck says:

    Yeah, I think that has a lot to do with Boldin getting a couple years. They are the same guy, but Boldin is stronger. Crabs is younger, yeah, but he ‘s going to want in the $12 mill per year area. Thing is Kappy likes Crabs, and his whole reason for the weird-ass deal he signed was so Crabs could stay. Both Crabs and VD are looking to make big bank. The Niners could very well balk on both of them if Patton becomes a viable player, and Ellington provide some deep threat.

    For as tough as this team is, there’s a big feeling to me that there are cracks in the foundation among the players, and in the front office. I don’t think it’ll take too much to get this shit wobbly in a hurry. A slow start could be disastrous.

    • NJ49er says:

      True Chuck.
      Guys have tasted the Playoffs and SB but came up short, so there could be some dessension brewing.

      No doubt the hope would be that both Patton and Ellington become viable real soon too.
      No matter what Kaep did for Crabtree, Crabtree will be looking out for himself, Iupati too.
      Can’t blame them, I would.

      It’s also pretty clear that the FA $$$ isn’t being tossed around too lavishly since the Rookie Cap came into play.
      I think more Teams are concerned with Drafting smartly and, trying to retain their own.
      We’ve done a pretty solid job in that regard with Baalke IMO.

      Much better to gamble on Draft Picks and lose, than to take the Dan Snyder/Albert Haynesworth option with fat FA deals.

      Draft Picks are the coins most GMs prefer to stockpile, which is why it wouldn’t kill Baalke to accept Comp Picks if necessary.
      IMO, we’ll probably keep one or the other.

      See where it goes……

  12. NJ49er says:

    Interesting stats from ESPN –
    Reasons why Jerruh can’t get out of his own way – DEAD MONEY –

    2014 NFL Salary Cap Information
    Team Cap Space Dead money Committed cash
    Jaguars $28,477,802 $10,270,165 $106,925,589
    Browns $25,894,925 $16,955,359 $146,289,905
    Bengals $24,595,254 $2,939,283 $111,111,551
    Jets $22,485,969 $11,053,958 $111,216,927
    Eagles $20,201,083 $9,453,783 $143,038,022
    Titans $19,595,426 $8,074,725 $119,871,068
    Dolphins $16,251,441 $5,909,630 $137,344,580
    Packers $13,958,808 $2,663,213 $134,902,476
    Colts $13,804,691 $1,871,402 $122,140,719
    Bucs $13,311,919 $901,763 $129,795,161
    Cardinals $11,532,210 $13,114,078 $131,311,330
    Raiders $10,720,023 $11,933,709 $131,670,248
    Cowboys $10,196,756 $23,199,516 $106,037,627
    Seahawks $9,329,428 $8,475,035 $151,596,368
    Falcons $9,167,571 $8,973,937 $152,682,276
    Texans $8,905,819 $17,898,841 $119,664,447
    Bills $7,913,052 $22,702,604 $140,633,488
    Vikings $7,720,258 $5,243,455 $132,718,482
    Patriots $7,351,320 $10,724,724 $114,884,937
    Giants $6,952,272 $6,058,141 $136,065,925
    Steelers $6,517,314 $10,947,900 $121,605,681
    49ers $6,422,157 $3,518,288 $149,978,160
    Bears $6,302,462 $12,576,989 $150,017,478
    Panthers $6,067,076 $18,974,241 $124,458,233
    Broncos $5,310,416 $5,708,186 $142,507,298
    Rams $5,054,304 $6,331,753 $117,999,328
    Ravens $4,649,136 $6,203,216 $159,973,035
    Chiefs $3,173,106 $3,306,490 $125,863,379
    Redskins $2,551,306 $10,635,233 $145,566,854
    Chargers $2,527,164 $12,546,651 $129,437,660
    Saints $1,940,911 $13,314,461 $129,346,457
    Lions $1,068,918 $4,065,738 $113,185,798
    Source: ESPN Stats & Information

    • NJ49er says:

      Sorry about the formatting Chuck –
      Looked nice, neat and organized when I copied it over –
      Got hosed at the post –

  13. NoFear49er says:

    Dead money from Ratliff and Ware no doubt. It hurts but with the new CBA and teams having to spend essentially all the cap money it might be made up in some part by not allowing Jerry to overpay as much as he might and it might have saved him from pulling the trigger on Johnny Football. Some may think that’s a bad thing I guess.

  14. unca_chuck says:

    Manzeill’s the big ??? He’s either Steve Young or Tim Tebow. Hot Tub Matt Leinart or Purple Drank. RG III or RG III-XIII. His family history is pretty wild if you haven’t read about it. But the Browns? They have talent. But I think they’d be foolish as hell to rush him into the starting spot.

    I really thought Jerry could not resist the urge to grab him in the draft. Woulda been quite the circus.

    Jerry has gone out of his way hundreds of times to keep Tony Romo all warm and fuzzy, though. Would Manzeill have provided too much competition?
    In 49er news, they signed FA RB Alphonso Smith from San Berdoo. Played the last few years at AZ.

    Yeah, I’d never heard of him either. 6’1, 209, 27 years old. 48 carries for 156 in 4 years.

  15. Spitblood says:

    San Berdoo? You’re not makin’ that shit up? I wish I was from San Berdoo.

  16. I wish I was “Five Little Miles From San Berdoo.”

  17. unca_chuck says:

    Nobody wishes they were five little miles from San Berdoo. Except on their way out of San Berdoo. . .

    Got to tell you, though that’s pretty deep in the obscure-song-of-the day category.

  18. Lucky for Jane she isn’t best remembered for her singing voice. She did that little number from “His Kind of Woman” (1951) also starring Robert Mitchum. Who we all know was the original Max Cady of “Cape Fear” long before Bobby D. played the part.

  19. Spitblood says:

    Looks like Jimmy Ward’s getting sold to us by the 49er marketing juggernaut. He does “look” the part. I’ll give him that. But he better not be A.) injured a lot. B.) lost in real games. C.) a tackle missing machine. I still don’t like the pick, but at least the 49er marketing juggernaut realizes the pick was a stretch so they’ve gotta sell. But then again, most 1st rounders get publicity. Not everything can be a conspiracy. And that’s unfortunate. Right, No Fear?

    • NoFear49er says:

      What’s unfortunate is checking the blog for interesting posts and finding yours instead.

      • Spitblood says:

        You’re like a fine wine… funnier with old age….. in the cellar……. and sometimes we need to put a cork in you.

  20. Spitblood says:

    Ward, Bethea, Reid, Brock and Culliver. That’s my kinda secondary!!! Very little experience. I love it. Cook sounds like he’s playing well. This will be one unit of the team I’m excited about watching play together. Hope they don’t disappoint.

    • NJ49er says:

      Chris Cook might actually survive the process and stick too Spit.
      Many believe he was miscast in MN.
      He apparently prefers the press game which is something we could benefit from.
      See where it goes over the next 6 weeks or so.

      • Spitblood says:

        I think I heard somewhere that Cook was a first round pick back in the day. Miscast is probably right considering Minnesota coaches. Leslie Fraser and Mike Singletary? “Is it any wonder [they’ve now] got tooooooo much time on [their] hands….?” I think Singletary was hired by the league to fuck something up at the upper management level.

        Either way, I’m betting Cook not only makes the team but gets significant playing time. Interesting to hear that Fangio and Donatell are working on Cooks’ ball skills and him locating the ball in flight. You’d think Minnesota covered that. Just goes to show how many bad coaches their are in the NFL… or put another way, how hard it is to find good coaches. Charlie Weis? My ass.

      • Spitblood says:


      • NJ49er says:

        High 2nd RD Pick for MN in 2010.
        Good size though.
        Knock on him is no INTs as a Pro.
        So yes, ball skills could certainly be improved.

        From what I’ve read on him, he was asked to be a Zone guy in MN, something he obviously didn’t fare too well with.

        For what it’s worth, he’s been suggesting that our style of Defense gives him a better opportunity to succeed.

        Again, we’ll see how it goes but, I do like the idea of getting a tall Press CB into the fold.

  21. NJ49er says:

    For me, one stat that stood out for Ward was 320 tackles in College.
    Deone Bucannon was my preferred S with 384 tackles.

    Once he came off the Board, Baalke likely sought Ward as the next best option, if he sought a sound tackler, as I suspect he does.
    Ward’s 4.47 40 and a 38″ vert were outstanding as well.

    By comparison, everyone’s concensus #1 Safety, Clinton-Dix had a mere 100 tackles at ‘Bama, and he ran a pedestrian 4.58 40 to boot.

    As with any Rookie, especially a small school guy like Ward, it comes down to effort when transitioning to a complex NFL level Defense.

    By all accounts, Ward is a baller.
    Stats are fun, they give you something to evaluate but, when all is said and done, it always comes down to the guys that WANT IT, vs the guys that think getting to the Pro’s is all that matters.

    We’ll get a good opportunity to compare Ward and Bucannon too, since AZ snagged Deone a few Picks ahead of us.

  22. unca_chuck says:

    You should enjoy the thrill of starting a blog, NoFear.

  23. unca_chuck says:

    I originally thought Ward was too small for SS. But as a slot CB? Sure. It’s not like Rogers was ANY great shakes these past couple years. Getting Culliver and his legs back will be good. Provided he doesn’t go all rogue.

    • NJ49er says:

      Whitner and Bethea aren’t very tall guys either Chuck.
      Simple answer for me is, can they tackle?
      I actually think Ward has CB coverage skills too, which sure isn’t a problem.

      • NJ49er says:

        Don’t sleep on Dontae Johnson either, he’s another of those CB/S-types with a little more height. Good wheels as well.

        I actually think Baalke grabbed a good group of DBs this year.

        Time will tell of course but, there’s reason to be optimistic if they all put the work in and develop.

  24. unca_chuck says:

    I’m not talking height, I,m talking weight. He seems a little light and may get beat up trying to lay the wood. In the slot he’ll be matching up Against smaller guys. As an SS he’d be going up against guys like Marshawn Lynch. Could get ugly.

    • NJ49er says:

      Yeh, he’s no Cam Chancellor size-wise but, he isn’t afraid of being physical either.
      We could conceivably groom Moody as a SS too.
      He’s a ‘tweener LB with some College S experience.
      Always fun to see who develops in this game.

      Look at TBrock, a guy that worked his way into the starting lineup.
      Very few guys do that in the NFL.

  25. NJ49er says:

    Looks like the guy Jerruh selected to replace the departed DeMarcus Ware, (DeMarcus Lawrence), broke his foot in Camp today.
    Sean Lee and now DeMarcus II.
    Dems DeBreaks.

  26. unca_chuck says:

    At some point the NFLPA is going to realize that players get hurt in practice as well as games and go back to a 6 game preseason without any camp at all.

    Be a fucking boon for the owners.

  27. Spitblood says:

    Right not Boone is sitting there asking himself if his experts are really experts.

  28. unca_chuck says:

    I don’t know about his experts, but Boone’s agents are idiots. Then again, I don’t know that the hell you are talking about, Spitty.

    All Boone is doing is possibly missing out on his shot for a ring.

  29. Nipper says:


  30. NJ49er says:

    This is the tactic The Mevis Agency specializes in Chuck.
    It’s soooo Old CBA however.

    There will come a point in this process where Boone will literally forfeit his current salary or, lose a year of eligibilty toward FA.

    If he’s a no-show for the Season opener, I’d predict he’s as good as done in SF.
    Team still ‘owns’ him no matter what his depraved representatives attempt to sell him.

    This ain’t the Darelle Revis/NYJ scenario anymore.

    Ownership has swung the momentum away from this ‘Old School’ tactic of holding a Team hostage over a Contract by holding out in this current CBA.

    • NJ49er says:

      Revis carried a ton of leverage in a way but, as solid as Boone is, he’s an OG.
      Underpaid? Absolutely.
      As with any Contract, it was agreed upon by both parties.
      There’s better ways to go about asking for it to be recast, in the proper business sense.

  31. unca_chuck says:

    That’s always been the rub. There’s Looney and Kilgore in the background. Jonathan Martin could conceivably get his spot. Boone’s good, but he needs to bide his time. You look at Ahmad Brooks reworking his deal for the benefit of the team. Kappy’s deal. Willis has done it. Some players put the team in front of themselves.

    That’s why I think both Crabs and VD are gone when their contracts are up.

  32. unca_chuck says:

    If he doesn’t practice til the season opener, he’ll be buried on the bench all year. Barring injury, he won’t play at all.

    • NJ49er says:

      Read recently that the other death knell Boone has to be wary of is an injury, of any sort, while holding out.
      Teams hold the rights to basically sequestor players, in all sort of manner, to minimize Contractual obligations in situations such as this.
      He could easily be NFI’d and lose out on time played toward eventual FA.
      Again, the current CBA favors ownership in situations like this.

      I loved Boone as an OT in College, very talented guy.
      But, he cooked his own situation with the alcohol related offenses he put himself in.

      No one disagrees with his Contract situation, just the fact that he’s attempting to change course in the middle of the deal.
      Had he gone about things as Staley did, chances are he would have been taken more seriously?

      I have no doubt the team would agree with his value being below market threshold but, other guys are closer to the finish line, in terms of expiring deals, that also need to be addressed.
      Trying to jump to the head of the line just makes him look stupid.
      It’s all due to The Mevis Agency.

  33. NJ49er says:

    Adding to the fun of the Contract Games, is my old pal Jerruh, handing OT Tyron Smith the fattest OL deal in the League.

    Now he’s got to deal with Dez coming off his Rookie Contract.

    And, to further lube his own anus, he and/or Son Stephen are already telegraphing their intentions via the media, to make Dez a Cowpattie for life.

    Way to negotiate in the spotlight.

    • Spitblood says:

      Yeah….. Jerry Jones is driving that organization not only into the ground, but through the mantle and down into the earth’s core. Gotta love it. It’ll take years to rehab that team after Jerry dies, and then if his son or family takes over (alla Mark Davis) the ineptitude will continue for years longer. I laugh, but really the 49ers aren’t much further away from Jerry’s Raiders….. I mean Cowboys. Harbaugh should have a deal in hand right now. Not locking up Harbaugh is Jed’s mistake. If Harbaugh leaves, the Yorks will look like Jerry Jones post Jimmy Johnson…. but worse yet, it’ll be without the rings. Jed will really have egg on his face then.

      Jerry Jones thinks he’s smart because he’s putting an emphasis on his O line, which the pros and scouts and people in the know will say is a good move, but the reality is that Dallas needs a locker room clean-out to dump the half-ass players who don’t know how to win and aren’t extremely motivated to win. How is an 8 year deal for 100 million motivating to anyone? That’s ridiculous. Jerry Jones is worse than Daniel Snyder…. and that’s saying something.

      • NJ49er says:

        Spit I don’t think Jed is low-balling Harbaugh as much as I think Harbaugh is just playing the system.

        Does Jim deserve an extension? Absolutely.

        I agree, it would be a tremendous loss to have to restart this process all over again, given the success Harbaugh and Staff have had since they arrived.

        Where Jerruh fails miserably, beyond the lavish overspending, is talent evaluation.

        He falls for the Kiper-hype that preceeds the Draft process, year after year.
        Morris Claiborne is a prime example.
        Dealing with us to pass on Reid was another.
        He’s a meddler of gigantic proportion too.
        Always seeking the big splash headlines.

        Personally, I enjoy the comedy he provides.
        Perfect analogy too, The Dallas Raiders.
        As Al was to the Raiders, Jerruh is to the Cowpatties.
        Meddling owner surrounding himself with ‘Yes Men’.
        At least Al was a self-made football guy.

        Jerruh’s ego and inability to coexist with Jimmie has cost him years of football anonimity too.

        Hopefully Jed and Jim can agree to keep this thing on the tracks.
        Jim has suggested that his Staff being compensated is just as important to him as getting a Brinks truck in his own driveway.

        If Jim delivers the hardware this year, all the rhetoric will cease.
        That’s when Jed just signs the check and, allows Jim and his Agent to fill in the numbers.

      • NJ49er says:

        I do have to backstep a bit regarding the Tyron Smith deal.
        I got distracted by the $110M Contract value before I realized that it was spread out over 10 years.
        That will allow Jerruh some room to thin it out over the term.

        Maybe he finally got one right.

      • NJ49er says:

        And another angle to consider with Jim is a College gig.
        Look at Saban in ‘Bama.
        Some of these big football factories can throw a trainload of cash at a guy like Harbaugh.
        Could it be possible Michigan is in the cards for him?
        He’d be a king if he returned and, they’ve got the bank to pull it off.

  34. Nipper says:

    BLEEP Michigan. Too damn cold.

  35. Better look out. Giants win two in a row they might give Uggla a 2-yr extension. Whoa them horses. Schefter tweeted earlier this morning that Aldon is facing a “significant” suspension when he meets with Goodell next Friday. I don’t know what Adam’s definition of significant is, but significant sounds like 4-6 games to me. Maybe Roger will indeed make Smith the “Escaped Goat” after his Ray Rice wrist-slap.

    • Nipper says:

      I’d give him 8 games if I could make that decision. Of course, I hate stupid fools so I’m not even handed.

  36. unca_chuck says:

    Uggla’s already gone, skippy. Schefter’s wishful thinking notwithstanding, I still think it’s only 2 games.

  37. Uggla was only 0-11 w/ 6 K’s while committing 3 Es in only 4 gms. Giants should’ve shown some patience.

  38. Spitblood says:

    If Aldon gets 4-6, Goodell is a bigger idiot than I originally imagined.

  39. Dan Uggla had an OPS this year of .442 The only thing the number 442 should be associated with is an Oldsmobile.

  40. unca_chuck says:

    Aaaand in other news, Marshawn Lynch will soon end his holdout. Seattle to add incentives to his deal, but not renegotiate it. Whatever the fuck that means. It’s from Adam Schefter.

  41. unca_chuck says:

    In case yer wondering, 4 bbl, 4 speed, dual exhaust.

    Contrary to popular sentiment, it wasn’t the engine size. That was usually a 400 or 455.

  42. Spitblood says:

    After watching the recent interview with Jed York, I don’t think Jim Harbaugh will be coaching the 49ers in 2016. I think Jed York fears the other owners in the league and doesn’t want to break NFL head coaching comparables or precedent because then other owner will have to pay their coaches more as well. And I think Harbaugh wants to be the highest paid head coach in the NFL.

  43. unca_chuck says:

    IF Harbaugh wins a Super Bowl, . . .

    • Spitblood says:

      Unca –
      Head coaches have no franchise tag and the salary cap does not apply to coaches so a ring means nothing…. although that’s what Jed York is selling and apparently you’re dumb enough to believe. If Jed York is stupid enough to let Harbaugh hit the open market – which it appears York is – then Harbaugh will become the highest paid coach in the NFL because some team will pay him that to rebuild their organization. And it won’t be an owner like Jerry Jones. It’ll be a respected owner like Arthur Blank (sp?) who can stand up to the rest of the owners and say, “I’m taking a shot and paying him more than what the rest of your believe is fair market because I believe he’s the best head coach to come available in decades.” It’ll take a respected owner to do this. And trust me, if Jim hits the open market, there will be a ton of interested from respected owner not named Jerry Jones. Jed York is an idiot for not giving Harbaugh what Harbaugh wants right now. If I was Jim Harbaugh, I’d tax Jed York (giving him the opposite of a hometown discount) in my next negotiation. Jed York doesn’t realize how important Jim Harbaugh is to Jed York’s reputation. Remember how hated Jed York was during the Alex Smith and Mike Singletary years? I do. Those good times are right around the corner.

      I don’t think Jim Harbaugh will be the coach here in 2016. And I think he’ll win a Super Bowl somewhere else.

  44. unca_chuck says:

    I’m saying here. If Harbaugh wins the SB in the next couple years, he’ll want $12 mill per. Jed will have to knuckle under or lose the fans.

    If Harbaugh falls short, sure someone else will pay him. Jed won’t. I’ve been saying that for most of this year, since the trade to Cleveland came up.

    This is why I think there’s all this talk of revamping the offense. Because Harbs is on a short leash now. He has to make it all the way rather than just be relevant. He raised the bar, now he has to clear it.

    • Spitblood says:

      If Jed York gets stuck in your way of thinking, we’ll lose Harbaugh and say hello to 6-10 seasons with Jim Tomsula. The Super Bowl means nothing regarding Harbaugh’s contract because if Harbaugh hits the open market he’ll be the highest paid coach in the league regardless if he owns a ring. Other coaches — respected coaches — would be happy to pay him top dollar.

    • unca_chuck says:

      It ain’t my way of thinking. It’s Jed’s. If Harbaugh falls short, say, both of these next 2 seasons, what then? Harbaugh is going to want a mega deal. I don’t think Jed pays it seeing as they’ve fallen short 5 seasons in a row.

      Maybe he will. I don’t know. But based on the contracts they’ve decided to re-up, and ones they haven’t (player-wise), it sure seems to me they won’t back the truck up for him.

      Besides, you are saying he won’t be here as well, so I don’t get how your point is different than mine. My point is the ring means EVERYTHING to Jed. He’s not satisfied with being relevant. He wants the ring. Whether that means giving Harbaugh the money should he fall short these next 2 season is the issue here.

      If he wins it all, case closed. If not, well, that’s where things get interesting.

  45. “I don’t think Jim Harbaugh will be the coach here in 2016. ”
    Harbaugh won’t be the coach here in 2015.

    ” And I think he’ll win a Super Bowl somewhere else.”
    There goes two years of sobriety down the drain. Glad to have ya back as a full-fledged member on the drinking team once again.

  46. unca_chuck says:

    Annnd more good news . . .

    Per Bleacher Report, Michael Crabtree is out 1-2 weeks with an undisclosed injury.

    He’s allergic to training camp is my best bet.

  47. unca_chuck says:

    Spitty, your point that Jed doesn’t want to rock the boat is ludicrous. Stupid even for you.

    If Harbaugh wins the SB, it won’t matter. $11 mill? Sure. No one would blink. Including the owners.

    What is Carroll getting? Well, it hasn’t been released how much his extension got him. He’s got 3 years on his new contract though. I’d figure between $27 and $30 mill.

  48. Spitblood says:

    Unca – Answer me this hypothetical question if you would be so kind. You make a 10 million dollars per year and your dog needs a $50,000 surgery to live another five or so years. You think $50,000 is a lot for poor Fido but the wife and kids love that damn dog. You call around to other vets all over the United States and Canada and nobody in North America has the “know how” to save the poor beast. The vet that quoted you $50,000 has told you his quote is firm. What do you do?

  49. Spitblood says:

    The lesson here, you stupid fucker, is that the price on the street is relevant to both your pockets and how limited to commodity. Now if you talked to friends and told them you paid $50k to save your dog’s life, they’d laugh at you. But you’re a man. You can take it.

    Jed York’s pockets are plenty deep to absorb a $15k per year hit. I estimated last year that owners each netted $500 million or half a billion year year. $15 million for Harbaugh per year is a drop in the bucket. So why not pay it if you’re Jed York? In my opinion, Jed York is letting Fiddo die because he doesn’t want his friends laughing at him.

    If you disagree, offer up a better alternative answer. Anyone?

    Harbaugh and York were negotiating. At least I assume when Jed says, “We’ve agreed (just recently) to stop the negotiation process until the end of the season,” that means they were negotiating and now Jed won’t pay Harbaugh what Harbaugh’s asking for. Are you following along so far?

    Why won’t Jed pay Harbaugh that money? Jed has everything to lose. Harbaugh, REGARDLESS OF RINGS, has all the leverage. Would you like me to re-hash for you the recent NFL hires?

    Why won’t Jed York pay Harbaugh? The only other possible answer to this question is the stadium. I honestly don’t know how much the York’s leveraged their personal net worth to get the stadium deal done, but even that doesn’t matter. You go out and put Jim Tomsula behind the wheel of a Lamborghini, and he’s gonna put it in the ditch. And you can’t sell tickets to a ditch party with sweaty Tomsula. The one benefit for York is that he’s got Harbaugh in the new stadium for two years. After that, Jed York’s gonna fuck this team up sideways and backwards.

    • Spitblood says:

      This should read, “Jed York’s pockets are plenty deep to absorb a $15 million dollar a year hit for Harbaugh’s salary.”

  50. unca_chuck says:

    Jed has a timetable in his head of 5 years. If Harbaugh doesn’t come through in 5 years, he’s not going to pay top dollar for a coach that hasn’t won it yet with the talent Jed and the front office put together for him. That’s the deal in a neat little package.

    Capische, skippy? This ain’t about saving face or anything like that. These guys are rich as fuck. If Jed KNEW he’d win 3 Super Bowls with Harbaugh, he’d pay him $15 mill per. Do you think Jed gives a hairy rat’s ass what Jerry Jerk-off thinks? Or re-un-deal Al thinks? Fuck to the no.

    This is about a team that SHOULD have 2 rings as of these past few years, if not 3. The coaching fuckups are duly noted on Harbaugh by the front office. At least that’s how I think the FO feels. If they were happy with ol’ Jimbo and his abrasive ways, none of this shit would be bubbling through the cracks.

    This isn’t about how Jed thinks he looks to the other owners, this is about how Jed feels he’s given Harbaugh the keys to the Ferrari, and Harbaugh drove it into a ditch. He’s not going to pay him for not getting to the finish line.

    • Spitblood says:

      You’re an idiot. If this is honestly how stupid you are, I’m not blogging here anymore for fear of somehow being contaminated by your stupidity through fiber optic osmosis.

      First of all, you don’t know what the fuck Jed York is thinking. Your dumb ass writes, “If Harbaugh doesn’t come through in 5 years, he’s not going to pay top dollar for a coach that hasn’t won it yet with the talent Jed and the front office put together for him.” You keep thinking a ring is the sticking point. It’s not. And your dumb ass forgets Harbaugh assembled a large part of the talent. You are one stupid mother fucker. Want evidence a ring doesn’t matter? It’s because if Jim can’t win a ring here and he hits the open market he’ll get paid top dollar by someone else – Bob Kraft, Arthur Blank.

      Fuck. It’s like you’re a monkey in a cage with someone dangling a shiny gold watch outside the cage and you’re dumb ass can’t take his eyes of the jewelery. It’s not about a ring. And again, you don’t know what York is thinking.

      And what makes you even more of a jackass is that while talking for Jed York (which is humorous) you don’t even factor in or give Harbaugh credit for the moves he made. Harbaugh assessed that the 49ers needed a secondary, a qb and a pass rush, and that’s what the team got post haste in the off season bringing in Whitner, Rogers and drafting Kaep and Aldon Smith. Is Jed York (through your crystal ball) trying to say Harbaugh didn’t find the York’s Colin Kaepernick? Or develop Kaep? That alone is worth $15 million per year. How valuable do think Kaep is to the 49er organization?

      AND… Who do you think Colin Kaepernick is going to be after Jim Harbaugh leaves to coach in Atlanta or New England? And I’m still addressing Jed York through your dumb ass, Unca, because appearantly unbeknownst to the blogging world, you have York’s proxy.

      “This team should have 2 rings, if not 3?” Fuck. Honestly. You so fuckin’ stupid. “YOU!!! OUTTA THE GENE POOL!!! Year one nobody wins a ring with Alex Smith. Not Lombardi himself. Year two, Harbaugh failed with a rookie qb with only 8 games under his belt. Not many rookie qbs win the Super Bowl (and yes, dumb ass, I know technically he wasn’t a rookie). Year three, in my opinion, the best team won. Seattle and Pete Carroll were better than SF. Seattle could run on the 49ers’ D and Frank Gore was too old to do anything other than run straight ahead. If we’re talking personnel, that’s a front office problem, not a Harbaugh problem. In addition to your purely stupid rant, there’s only one guy who gets the 49ers into the position of 3 consecutive NFC Championship games – Jim Harbaugh. Who else could have done that? Unca? Offer someone up. Cower? Gruden? Not a chance. There’s no other coaching candidate on earth who could have taken the 49ers from Singletary to 3 consecutive NFC Championship games. No …….body. Offer someone up, you fuckin’ retard.

      “Harbaugh drove the Ferrari into the ditch?” Fuck me. You’re a fuckin’ moron.

  51. unca_chuck says:

    ESPN’s reporting a sore hamstring for Crabs. It ain’t a foot or knee, but he needs to be healthy.

  52. unca_chuck says:

    Where’s the bar set, skippy? Playoffs? Yer as dumb as a bag of dicks.

    It’s no great shakes to think the front office is holding Harbaugh to a standard that he himself set.

    Like I said, if shit wasn’t this disjointed, we wouldn’t be getting all this rigamarole around Harbaugh, the front office, and all the angst around the trade that never was. Would we? Is this SOP in your book? Riiiiight, Do you pay attention to reality, or only the disjointed ramblings coming off your keyboard? Wake up and smell the real world.

    Ok, Harbaugh’s limping down the shoulder with a couple flat tires. If he doesn’t inflate them, he’ll be left in the dust.

    If Jed was Art Rooney, he might have the patience to wait this out with Unca Jim.

    Do you think he will? I don’t. Look at what got Seifert thrown out of here.

  53. unca_chuck says:

    Good to know you are once again back on the crazy train. Hit 5:23

  54. Nipper says:

    I luv it when you guys throw the insults around. Makes me feel warm ……a real feel good moment. And worrying about a coaches contract is a real hoot. One bit of advice don’t count your super bore victories prematurely. It’s crazy out there!

  55. Spitblood says:

    “You’re as dumb as a bag of dicks.” That should be POTD.

  56. Spitblood says:

    Hey Del, I’ve got a question for you…… Did you like George Seifert?

    • Nipper says:

      Hey where is the keeper of the quacks…….I trust not on the sawdust floor.

    • I’m assuming you trolled out that question so you could remind me that George lost three NFCCGs himself. One courtesy of the infamous Roger Craig fumble, and the other two he lost to BETTER Cowboy teams in consecutive years. He also had a “shit happens” year when finishing 10-6 was only good enough to send us “Home for the Holidays.”

      HOWEVER, sandwiched around those four seasons were two Super Bowl wins. And I’ll tell ya why George Seifert was a 1000% significantly better head coach than Jim Harbaugh…George never in a million years would have lost a Super Bowl to Joe fucking Flacco. Never in my life have I witnessed a team so ill-prepared for the big stage. If it weren’t for that blackout, we would have lost by 3-4 TDs easy.

      Let me say that again. We lost to Joe motherfucking Flacco. I would have fired hiss ass on the spot. The San Francisco Forty Niners DO NOT lose Super Bowls. Let alone to Joe piece of shit Flacco.

      Harbaugh has brought nothing but shame, misery along with added emotional and physical distress to my life. I don’t know how else to say it, but Jim Harbaugh is literally killing me.

      • Spitblood says:

        This is pure gibberish. First of all, Seifert got out-coached year-in and year-out. Seifert and Young were dominated by both the Packers and the Cowboys. You do have a minor point that the Pack had Favre and the ‘Boys had Aikman, while the Ravens have Flacco, but Seifert was still vastly overrated.

        Seifert won two rings. The first one was on the heals of quite possibly the greatest football team ever put together in the history of the NFL by Bill Walsh – the ’89 49ers. The other was the only time Seifert got past the Cowboys only after Jimmy Johnson stepped down AND Carmen and Eddie D decided to purchase an over-the-top all pro defense. Seifert never got over on anyone except Barry Switzer and Bobby Ross. He never out-coached anyone. I’m not trying to be funny. This is a serious question. Wasn’t Bobby Ross retarded? Didn’t Bobby Ross have an exceptionally low IQ? Where’s 12th man when you need him? He’s our retard expert. You give Harbaugh that ’90 team handed off to him after Walsh built a dream team and Harbaugh’d also win you a Super Bowl. You dump the salary cap rules and give Harbaugh a blank check to out buy the competition while simultaneously having the number one competitor’s head coach get fed up with the owner (Jimmy and Jerry) and Harbaugh will win you a Super Bowl in that situation as well.

        Seifert had everything handed to him and he got two rings. What did Harbaugh have handed to him? Alex Smith? Jed York? “Well tanks fer nuttin’.”

  57. unca_chuck says:

    Didja even notice you were potd, Spitty?

  58. Speaking of “Home for the Holidays.” There’s no place like it. So please allow me as I’m always wont to do and be the first to wish each and every one of you a very Merry Christmas.

  59. Nipper says:

    Perry Como? Yikes…….what’s next Guy Lombardo?

  60. unca_chuck says:

    Harbaugh inherited a very stacked team. Much like Seifert. Don’t kid yourself, Spitty. Nolan had a lot less to work with when he got here.

    Dennis, that Lou Saban clip is one of my all time favorite clips from NFL Films.

  61. 12th man says:

    Ok Spit I’ll bite. Harbaughs team against the Ravens were woefully unprepared and the stage was too big for Harbaugh at that time IMO. Harbaugh was out coached against the Squawks, Pete did a better job then Jim on the day. Your reasoning about the running game has some merit but thats the point the coach changes things up if something isnt working,. Pete baited Jim at the end of the game and it worked out for him, barely. The Niner team was marginaly better than the Squawks IMO.

    No coach in the NFL is making double digits. I’m not 100% but I don’t think anyone is making 9m yet 12m and 15m are being tossed around like confetti.
    Clearly Jim thinks he isnt being offered enough of a contract value and York thinks he is or this deal would be done already.
    Jim gets another chance this year to increase his value to the franchise. I dont think a SB is the only way to do that, but less than another NFCCG is a step back so Jim has a narrow opportunity to improve his leverage beyond his current achievements. NFCCG improves his leverage, less than that detracts. Either way 10m a year would likely not be on the table. The Market sets the value and the market is 32 guys in business together.

    • Spitblood says:

      In the Super Bowl, Harbaugh didn’t get out-coached by brother John. In the Super Bowl, Jim Harbaugh’s asshole was tighter than a snare drum. The fish rots from the head down. Harbaugh doesn’t know how to win big games, and never has – even as a player. It’s because he wants to win too much. He presses too much. Montana was “Joe Cool,” because in big, pressure situations Montana was relaxed and let things come to him or made plays seems effortless whereas Harbaugh’s players press because of the coach’s intensity – borderline insanity. Harbaugh wasn’t “out-coached,” regarding the X’s and O’s by brother John. Harbaugh couldn’t relax. If you noticed, John was relaxed.

      In the last NFC Championship game against the Seahawks, both Trent Baalke and Jim Harbaugh have some liability for losing that game. That game came down to running the ball and stopping the run. I think Colin Kaepernick, for all his mistakes, was a total net zero in that game because he was trying to make things happen on offense and he was really the only one doing anything. But back to run the ball and stop the run. I will always contend that Frank Gore was done last year. The fact that Harbaugh didn’t use two fresh horses in Hunter and James against the Seahawks IS a Jim Harbaugh fault. No question. And the error is even more egregious now that Gore still looks to be the primary back heading into 2014. But there’s not much Harbaugh and Fangio can do to stop the run mid game. The 49ers didn’t have the guys up front. This year Tank and Dial will certainly help, but like Frank Gore, Justin Smith should also see a significant loss in playing time.

      In defending Harbaugh, or better yet, presenting my case to everyone here that Harbaugh and Kaepernick are light years better than Seifert and Young, I appear to be making excuses, but if you go back and read this blog and others you’ll see that I was saying these things right after each and every big game – and in some cases I was very much critical of Harbaugh. But Harbaugh and Kaep are better than Seifert and Young and here’s why.

      1.) Harbaugh didn’t have anything handed to him like Seifert did.
      2.) Seifert was never able to beat good head coaches in significant games. Seifert was schooled by both Holmgren and Jimmy Johnson. He beat both guys, but in insignificant games that never lead to Super Bowl rings. Seifert’s one soul Super Bowl (I don’t really count the 1990 Super Bowl because a chimpanzee could have coached that team to a ring), was like Peyton Manning’s one soul Super Bowl – the clouds opened up and let it happen. Manning beat the Bears with Rex Grossman and Seifert beat the Chargers with ……Bobby Ross and I can’t even remember who their qb was.
      3.) Harbaugh found Colin Kaepernick and developed him. Seifert’s forte was defense, but for winning multiple Super Bowls, I like the offensive head coach with hand picked qb formula better than the Seifert / Young model, but that’s just preference.
      4.) Going into big games with Seifert and Young I knew we were going to lose. Those two together couldn’t beat big opponents. With Harbaugh and Kaepernick I don’t feel that way. I feel like Harbaugh and Kaepernick can beat anyone at any particular time in any stadium. I don’t like to blame the refs, but lets not forget that video about all the blown calls that went in the Seahawks’ favor. And I do believe in conspiracies.
      5.) Harbaugh’s two flaws as a head coach in big games are that he’s too loyal to older players (Gore lost the 49er / Seahawks NFC Championship game), and he’s too tight, making his players tight and then in turn make mistakes or don’t play to their potential. This is why the power outage helped the 49ers in the Super Bowl so much – they started to relax and realize at that point they had nothing to lose. Seifert’s flaw was that the offense was too predictable, he had a deer in the headlights look, and aside from the ’94 season when Carmen bought every good free agent in sight, Seifert’s defenses were mostly solid but not overwhelming. So Seifert was vanilla while Harbaugh is too loyal and too intense. And don’t tell me Seifert was intense. Seifert was goofy.
      6.) In general, Harbaugh’s a self-made coach unlike Seifert, with nothing handed to him, and Harbaugh not only has “out-coached” significant coaches like McCarthy, Mike Smith, Sean Payton and others, but Jim Harbaugh and Colin Kaepernick could beat anyone at anytime. Let’s also not forget that Harbaugh’s still learning how to coach – he’s only been in the league three years.

      I’m betting this year, because I believe in conspiracies, the NFL says it’s good for the league for a sloberknocker rivalry with two teams in the same division with back-to-back rings, so this is the 49ers’ year. And once Harbaugh and Kaep have a ring, those two could win more together than Montana and Walsh… but right now that’s coulda, shoulda, woulda….

      The key to Harbaugh getting a ring this year will be his ability to sit Justin Smith and Frank Gore, and Harbaugh’s ability to relax in big games which will be indicated mostly by how he treats the refs.

  62. The key to Harbaugh getting a ring this year…

    • Spitblood says:

      Del – I got your invite to the FF league. I won’t be playing it this year. Nobody really participated last year.

  63. Spitblood says:

    Dorsey out for the season. Another mistake by Baalke in the draft…. no backup NT. I thought the 49ers should draft two running backs and a NT. I was saying the 49ers needed to draft Devonta Freeman and Jeremy Hill, and I said the 49ers should have drafted a NT instead of their reach for Ward.

    Now with Bowman and Dorsey out, and with Reid and Bethea and no Whitner… the spine of this defense is going to suck!

  64. And stop with this nonsense that Kap is “light years” ahead of Young. Now you’re just talking out your ass. You’re talking about a HOFer there. Kap’s still waiting in line to buy a ticket for his entrance into Canton. Not to mention he hasn’t even turned the same corner that Young did when he became a better passer than a runner. And that’s where Kap still is at this moment. And if you don’t think that’s a major problem, I can’t help ya.

    And stop blaming the goddamn officials. It’s pathetic, petty and ultimately sad.

    • Nipper says:


    • Spitblood says:

      Young became a better passer in something like year seven of his career. Kaep in year three has gone farther, done more and is a much better passer than Young when both were in year three. And Kaep’s a much better runner than Young was …… period. Year two Kaep was in the Super Bowl. Year two Young was in the USFL. Ouch.

      • Year two Kap LOST the Super Bowl. Year three he LOST the NFCCG. Worse yet. Year one Kap couldn’t beat out a QB who had previously lost his starting job to the likes of Shaun Hill, JT O’Sullivan and Troy Smith. Double ouch.

      • Spitblood says:

        Year one Kaep wasn’t in competition for the starting job. Year one Jim Harbaugh was running a full-on Alex Smith marketing campaign to rejuvenate his career in SF. Having Smith compete with Kaep would have been a bad idea for that Alex Smith career overhaul. Let’s not get carried away. And losing the Super Bowl by one play when you only have 8 games as pro under your belt AND the last competition you faced was college division II ball ain’t nothing to be ashamed about.

        But what is something to be ashamed about is only winning one Super Bowl with deep pockets Eddie D as your owner when there’s no salary cap. Holy Shit, Steve Young! That’s the biggest OUCH there is!!!!

  65. Spitblood says:

    Because Trent Baalke sucks at his job, the 49ers are now going to have to trade for a NT – or switch to a 4/3 with conventional DTs in the middle. No Dorsey or Bowman along with a really light Eric Reid and Bethea means the Seahawks will be able to run the ball right down our throats. I look for the Seahawks to now beat us twice this year, and it’s because Trent Baalke isn’t nearly as good of a GM as you people believe he is. No backup NT is inexcusable.

    • Nipper says:

      Dennis is ready! Drink until one of you hits the sawdust floor.

      • I just started. But I can’t sit here all day and play with you guys on the blog. Saturday is my big horsey day. I have to convince myself that I’m at least semi-informed when they run up the track.

        And I’ll say it again. Any horseplayer will tell ya that the worst thing to happen is getting nipped at the wire and lose by just a nose. That’s exactly what these three years with Jimbo have been like. Losing every race by a nose. It eats at ya. It literally tears a guy’s soul out.

        Lose by a nose or finish up the track in 6th? Lose the NFCCG or Super Bowl or finish 6-10? Two of the easiest questions I’d ever have to answer.

      • Spitblood says:

        So what Del’s saying is he’d rather have Mike Singletary as a head coach than Jim Harbaugh. You don’t get handed greatness. You earn it. You don’t inherently become a winner. Bill Walsh honed his craft with Paul Brown. Harbaugh is honing his craft with the 49ers. Walsh was a grey haired fox by the time he was winning Super Bowls. You don’t get to just walk in and win. Carroll was with the Jets, Patriots and 49ers. You earn it. And you earn it as a fan as well. You live and die with your team and then you take it like a man. You don’t cry when your team loses, citing heart problems. When Harbaugh does turn it around, and by the looks of things (with Dorsey and Hunter out and no real depth at RB or NT) it won’t be this year – Del won’t get to enjoy it. I’ll make sure of that.

      • Don’t give me this poppycock about having to “earn” or being inherited with a winner. My first year as a young season ticket holder at the pubescent age of 13 WAS with Walsh and his POS 2-14 squad. But I was thankful. Thankful to just be there as they say. Then we improved to 6-10 next year, and the rest they say is history.

        I’ve paid my fucking dues as a life-long 49er fan. I owe nothing to no one. I’ve literally bled and gone to jail for this team. So I’m going to react and feel however the fuck I want. I got that coming to me. Not only that, but it’s *owed* to me. Guys have been sent to the gas chamber for less.

      • Spitblood says:

        I agree, you’re entitled. However, we’re all entitled to take a stand one way or another. Each coaching staff, each quarterback, each team position of significance the true fan has an opinion on. Are you on the right side or the wrong side hating Harbaugh but somehow justifying your love for Seifert and Steve Young? Time will tell. But what if Harbaugh and Kaep win 3 Super Bowls together? You’re gonna be one bitter bastard. Or will you do what you did with Peyton Manning and after he lays an ostrich egg in the Super Bowl drop your plea, “Have we signed Peyton Manning yet?” You were on the wrong side of that one. Oops. You’re on the wrong side of Harbaugh debate as well.

      • Au contraire, mon frère. I’ve never wavered on our Niners missing out the the Peyton Manning signing. Rues me to this day. And you do know why we “didn’t,” my incessant mantra was, “DID we sign Peyton Manning yet?” Semantics aside, the reason we didn’t sign Manning is the one and same we’ve been arguing about — Jim Harbaugh. Jimbo wasn’t about to let Peyton turn *his* offense into a Ferrari. He wanted a guy like Alex to drive his tank.

        You know what happens to guys who drive tanks? They lose.

  66. That’s a tough break losing Dorsey. Can’t count on Ian Williams being healthy either. Through in no Bowman and Aldon for the first part of the season and this “new” offense better be scoring some pts. Our defense is going to be allowing ’em.

    Bet the OVER (49) Week 1 vs DAL. You can thank me later.

    • Spitblood says:

      Steve Young and George Seifert were overrated. Neither should be in HOF. I don’t think Seifert is…. Young shouldn’t be.

  67. Spit, I’m sure you’ll get a kick outta this one as you’re a big Daniel Day-Lewis fan such as myself…I was 3/4 of the way home in the PK 4 at Saratoga today when I was singled in the final leg to a horse named Plainview. That money-grubbing, oil-sucking horse was leading the entire way until he spit the bit in late stretch. Cost me some serious drinking money — and then some.

    It’s like that horse Plainview had a straw…

  68. Hey, Spit‽ Gotta love my use of the WOTD there, but I digress. I don’t like talking politics, let alone bringing them up on a 49er blog. But I blame myself as I brought up Dukakis and his tank-driving mookness. But this is odds related so I consider that OK…

    Hillary Clinton is 7/5 (+140) favorite to win our next presidency. The second choice at 15/1 is Jeb Bush. Do you know what that means? That’s right. This country is going from a moulinyan to a cunt at presidency.

    That’s a Daily Double that no one wants to hit.

  69. Drainage is a beautiful thing.

  70. NJ49er says:

    Spit I know how much you love Baalke and all but, let’s recall that Dorsey was a deal Baalke made, (on the cheap), to upgrade the interior of the previously ailing DLine – Post Ice and RJF, who couldn’t anchor inside against the run.
    Baalke smartly let them depart in FA, gathering Comp considerations in the process.
    Taking Tank and Dial could also prove that having a vision to the future is equally important from the GM position.

    Dorsey rejunivated his career last year, simply because he got the opportunity to start, after losing out to an Ian Williams season ending injury, who BTW, Baalke smartly snagged as an UDFA, free, as in no Draft Pick spent.

    I buy much of your argument for Harbaugh, however, I still firmly believe good franchises start with good GMs/talent evaluators/Scouts and, smart Cap Mgrs.

    Absolutely no doubt that once the talent is obtained, the Coaching has to shine and, Harbaugh has proven that he can produce positive results as a HC.

    I do agree completely with your assessment that the Offensive minded Harbaugh likely tabbed Kaep as the future of the franchise but……he’s also a run-first minded HC.

    I would prefer to see Kaep in the pocket more, using his arm more than his legs.
    For this reason, Harbaugh is likely taking heat to some extent, as the passing game has suffered in big games.
    That is a combination of Jims’ penchant for the ground game and, a young QB who likely wasn’t close to ready for the big game spotlight as a passer.

    There were numerous opportunities, both in the SB loss and, the NFCCG loss to Seattle.
    Walker was open in the end zone vs the Ravens, as Kaep locked onto Crabtree, just as other options were available in Seattle last year in crunch time, again, while Kaep locked onto Crabtree.

    • NJ49er says:

      To that end, Williams is still available to us and, Tomsula IMO, is one of the best DLine Coaches in the game.
      It’s been a mystery to me that he, (Tomsula) hasn’t gotten more exposure to HC opportunities too.

      He’s taken an absolute football virgin, Lawrence Okoye, and by all accounts, is turning him into a viable option as a DE.

      Again, talent evaluators make or break a roster but, good Coaches take that talent to another level.
      See Jerruh in Dallas to realize what a buffoon does to an organization when talent isn’t properly evaluated or Drafted in the proper slots.

      Each piece of a football organization has to work with each other.
      Harbaugh and Baalke NEED to coexist.

      • NJ49er says:

        As for trading for another DT, we still have Mike Purcell and Kaleb Ramsey waiting in the wings for a chance to show something.
        Typically, DTs take a couple of years to shine, just like the QB position.

        Sucks to lose Dorsey but, we aren’t bereft of talent at this point.
        Baalke has provided ample depth to rely on IMO.
        Preseason games will provide a window to see where we are.

        Like you, I’m always looking for the next Ted Washington/Michael Carter Naloti Ngata or Vince WIlfork.
        Those big boys inside are the LBs best friends.

  71. NJ49er says:

    Haloti Ngata of course – apologies for the typo.

  72. Nipper says:

    Lets see it’s about 3:15 in the morning……..has Dennis finally crashed on to the sawdust floor?

  73. unca_chuck says:

    I think you broke his fall, Nip.

  74. unca_chuck says:

    Looks like it’s time for the 2013 draft class to step up. Neither Dorsey or Williams (limited, sure) were anything more than decent, so the hope is these young guys can hold steady up front without too much concern.

    The defense is looking like a big ? what with a depleted line, a banged up LB corps, and a group of new DBs who need to coalesce quickly.

    4 days til the preseason opener, so we’ll see something resembling football on Thursday.

    Seriously, Spit? 6-10 was an indictment of the coaching staff, not the players. Any idiot knows that.

    • Spitblood says:

      A “stacked team” doesn’t go 6-10 with a chimpanzee coaching. Do you remember these names? Moran Norris, Josh Morgan, David Baas, Chilo Rachal, Aubrayo Franklin, Manny Lawson, Micheal Lewis, Takeo Spikes, Parys Haralson, Nate Clements, Reggie Smith and Alex Smith? Of course you don’t. You’re dumb enough to create an argument with blinders on.

      I’m glad you speak for all the idiots out there. That figures. But the team went 6-10 for a reason under Singletary.

  75. I just learned the other day that both Singletary and Jimmy Hat are now wearing suits and working for the league office in some trumped up capacity. That’s a helluva operation Roger’s got running over there.

  76. NJ49er says:

    9ers claimed WR La’Damian Washington from Dallas – Waived Jon Baldwin to make room on the roster.

  77. NJ49er says:

    Big target 6’4″ with 4.38 speed –

    He’s a project at best.
    Decent numbers at MO though.
    Obviously Baldwin hasn’t done squat so Baalke just dumped a Contract at least.

  78. unca_chuck says:

    You see, Spitty, the 2009 !niners were 8-8. The idea was they’d been unshackled from the onerous dick Nolan, and were on their way to greatness in 2010. Well, it didn’t work. Not because of the players. But because of Sing.

    • Spitblood says:

      What does this have to do with my 1:02 post? I think you’re getting dummer. If possible.

    • unca_chuck says:

      Gee, I don’t know spit. That same 6-10 team was 8-8 the year before. Teh concensus was the team would improve under Singletary after his promising start in 08-09. They were predicted to do well. Why is that? Because they sucked? Because they had shitty players? Because Sing was a holy man?

      No, skippy. I’lll let you fill in the rest.

      You act like the team bore no resemblance to each other year to year.

      • Spitblood says:

        I think you might be an idiot. Honestly. Look at how you’re defending your side of the argument. Is that even coherent? No offense meant, of course.

        My point with listing all the starters from the 2010 year (Singletary’s last) was to show Harbaugh created significant turnover in that “stacked” dream team you claim was here in 2010. I think Jamie Dukes at the time said it best on the NFL Network. Dukes said the 49ers had “some nice pieces in place for a good coach.” They certainly did. I’m not denying that at all. But it took a good to potentially great coach in Jim Harbaugh to assess the team’s weaknesses and bring in guys who could play immediately to complete the team. And let’s not forget, Trent Baalke was the GM in 2010 with Singletary so the immediate turnover probably didn’t have much of Baalke’s expertise included in it.

        Of the 22 starters on both offense and defense from the 2010 year – Singletary’s last, Harbaugh dumped 13 of them. That’s not a “Stacked” team. That’s good coaching because part of coaching is assessing who can play.

        What irks me the most about all you who AREN’T COMPLETELY in the Harbaugh corner is just how short your memories are. Did you guys forget how bad the 49ers were for the decade leading up to Jim Harbaugh? Did you?

        Let me throw some names at you just to refresh your ungrateful memories. Dennis Erickson, Kevan Barlow, Steve Stenstrom, Chris Wienke, Sammy Davis, Jim Hostler, David Carr, Chilo Rachal, Moran Norris, Rashaun Woods, Cody Pickett, Tim Rattay, Arnez Battle (sp?), Jimmy Raye… I don’t know about you, but I don’t want to go back there. I mean you guys who think Harbaugh was just handed greatness are complete idiots. This team was an emotional wreck. This team had scars of ineptitude all over itself. The players were downtrodden. The owner was hated. The stadium, empty. And for brain-dead Unca to assert that Harbaugh was handed a “stacked team,” makes me wonder if we need to up-Chuc’s meds.

        But we all know Unca can’t think for himself. Unca rides the fence until the issue is resolved and then he give us his patented, “Like I was saying last month….” LMAO. Right now Del’s influencing Unca’s feeble brain. But Del’s fragile sensibilities (not being able to root for anything other than a winner but he somehow loves Peyton Manning and Tony Romo) shouldn’t influence anyone with some huevos.

  79. Spit’s questioning another’s intelligence and calling them “dummer?”
    You’re just being ironical now.

  80. Jesus H. Christ. Listening to Ray Guy now during the HOF Game I had forgotten how much he sounds like a “dum” redneck. Ray’s straight out of a Jeff Foxworthy punch line…
    If you’ve ever been too drunk to fish…

  81. And remember, mud spelled backwards…

  82. My nomination for the “dummest” quote of the year thus far goes to Geno Smith of your J-E-T-S Jets Jets Jets! Geno proclaims he’ll be a Top 5 QB by season’s end.

    Maybe Geno could get me Mulder and Scully’s autograph when he’s up there in Canada playing in the CFL.

    • NJ49er says:

      I think he meant Top 5 in the AFC East Del –
      He’s competing with Vick now don’t forget.

      No more Sanchise and butt-fumblitis to bump up his stats.

  83. 12th man says:

    I really enjoy watching Fangio at his pressers. Straight shooter no B.S.

    The anti Harbaugh. Refreshing.

  84. unca_chuck says:

    You get moronic when you get long-winded, Spitty. That’s when I know you are casting bullshit everywhere.

    • unca_chuck says:

      Blah blah blah. Harbaugh didn’t change very many important positions like QB, WR, RB, most of the line, and most of the defense. Get it, skippy? Of course not. I guess subbing Bruce Miller for Moron Norris is a huge move in your book, eh?

      Pete Carroll turned his roster over pretty significantly after he got to Seattle. Harbaugh didn’t have to. All those other guys on your list have squadoosh to do with my point. Or are you saying Erickson was Singletary’s fault? You looooooooooove to look at your pretty words, don’t you? Sound and fury signifying nothing, as usual.

      Harbaugh had a stable of good players to work with. That’s all I’m saying you hyperbolic dipshit.

      • Spitblood says:

        “Harbaugh didn’t change very many important positions like QB?” Are you on drugs? “Do you take drugs, Denny?”
        “Every day.”
        “Then what seems to be the problem?”

        Your arguments are going right into the lumber yard.

  85. Spitblood says:

    Andy Dalton? My god. Cincinnati: What are you thinking?

  86. Spitblood says:

    I mean it’s almost like these teams who are signing their crappy qbs to long-term deals are saying they don’t want to compete for Super Bowls. Romo, Flacco, Dalton? I can still throw the ball five yards out of bounds like Andy Dalton when I have the best receiver in the game in Green. I can still choke a game away in the 4th quarter like Romo. I can still sit in the pocket like a statue like Flacco. Someone should pay me $100k to not compete for Super Bowls. Sign me up.

  87. unca_chuck says:

    There’s the known knowns, the unknown knowns, and the unknown unknowns.

    Those teams are banking on the known unknowns.

  88. unca_chuck says:

    New thread is up . . .

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