Sayonara to the Stick _UPDATE!!! MULTI-MEDIA EVENT!!!

From a friend (Anna) on another blog:

I am looking for people to participate in an online Farewell to Candlestick party. The purpose is, of course, to hold a going away party for the soon-to-be Great America 49ers. The second purpose is to test out software that I hope will become a significant part of and asset to social media and fan/user interaction. The software is at my.groupol.ogy, but you’ll need a private invitation in order to participate in this multimedia event that will feature videos, Candlestick memories, photos and live chat during the game. If you’d like to participate, please send email to If you cannot attend, please contribute your own Candlestick memories on the “Jon Dowds Revenge” site listed in my blogroll ( Thanks!

the stick

It still hasn’t really sunk in yet. Candlestick Park, Monster Cable Stadium, 3-Com, Shit-hole, The Pigsty, whatever you want to call it, it will forever in my heart be The Stick. Some time soon it will be imploded and forgotten. I can’t even begin to guess at how many baseball and football games I’ve been to at the grand old hole, but I do remember the first game I went to. I was in 2nd grade, and it was 1969.

My mom thought it would be a great idea to take me and all the 2nd grade boys (16 of us) in my class to Bat Day. Bat Day usually fell near my birthday (April 25th), and this game was on the day after. I don’t remember very much about the game, but it was a sunny gorgeous Saturday, we were playing Astros, and all my favorite players were out there. Willie Mays, Bobby Bonds, Willie McCovey, and Juan Marichal. An old guy behind me said “watch that centerfielder for the Astros. Jimmy Wynn. They call him the Toy Cannon.” I don’t know if he did anything that day, but I loved the nickname, and he became a guy whose career I followed as a kid. We were sitting in the upper deck cheapies on the 1st base side. I think we won.

The coolest thing about the game was the bats. Every kid 14 and under got a regulation sized bat. During any rally, all the kids would start pounding the bats on the concrete in rhythm. A sound that I’ll never forget, since there were tons of kids in the stands that day. My mom put up with a lot of kid shennanigans, and I hve no idea how we all got there, but I do remember getting bags of peanuts, those Carnation Malted things with the little wooden spoons, hot dogs, and cokes. We had a lot of fun stacking peanut shells on the hats of the 2 drunk oldsters in front of us who had fallen asleep (passed out?) somewhere around the 6th inning. All in all a greeat day, and my introduction to The Stick. Mom did that for the next couple years, bless her heart, and from then on I went to games every chance I got. Scrounging up money to catch the bus and hit the bleachers for 50 cents, or glomming on to friends who were going.

There’s talk of opening the stadium up some time next year for one last tour, and that is something I will not miss.

If you have any pictures or stories to share about the ol’ shit-hole, let me know . . .

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378 Responses to Sayonara to the Stick _UPDATE!!! MULTI-MEDIA EVENT!!!

  1. 12th man says:


  2. 12th man says:

    its a 6 point game.

  3. 12th man says:

    4 picks for Carson today so far, 2 his fault, 2 bad luck. Whats the over/under on Carson picks today?

  4. 12th man says:

    Jeeeezuz lucky bastards again

  5. 12th man says:

    Wilson is tougher than I thought

  6. 12th man says:

    crazy bullshit call

  7. WTF kind of call was that on the PAT?

  8. 12th man says:

    Squawks miss the point after making it a tie game and some mystery penalty for illegal D formation gives them a second chance which they convert. Announcer see’s nothing wrong on replay. Bullshit.

  9. 12th man says:

    Horseshit. Zebras are killing this game of football enforcing stupid league rules unevenly. That flag was utter horseshit.

  10. NoFear49er says:

    Palmer makes one to the guys in red.

  11. 12th man says:

    Late flag but it was PI

  12. NoFear49er says:

    Damn these guys absolutely hate to throw a flag on Seattle.

  13. 12th man says:

    Heck of a D game today, both teams but more Arizona.

  14. NoFear49er says:

    Drain the clock.

  15. 12th man says:

    TD Arizona!

  16. NoFear49er says:


  17. 12th man says:

    PI on the play too, not that it matters now

  18. philippinefan says:


  19. NoFear49er says:

    A two-pointer nullifies the bs call on the kick

  20. 12th man says:

    2 pt conversion yes!

  21. NoFear49er says:

    One more stop for the AZ D.

  22. 12th man says:

    bad time for a short kick

  23. 12th man says:

    need a 3 and out

  24. 12th man says:


  25. philippinefan says:

    Whats the review for?

  26. 12th man says:


  27. 12th man says:

    Unbeatable at home? Dennis, STFU

  28. 12th man says:

    win or lose today, they can be beat.

  29. philippinefan says:

    Damn old Palmer hit a big one now TO from Wilson

  30. 12th man says:

    And were! OK Rams, make it 2 in a row.

  31. philippinefan says:

    Rams could do it too

  32. rtfirefly says:

    The Cards beat us next week, they’ll finish 11-5. And miss the playoffs.

  33. 12th man says:

    the sound of jaws dropping all over Seattle is all I hear now.

  34. 12th man says:

    Giants eliminate Detroit.
    New coach?

  35. NoFear49er says:

    Helluva bunch of late game finishes.

  36. 12th man says:

    Pit knocks off GB, Bears likely win division now.

  37. Why didn’t Tomlin take a few knees and kick the GW FG as time expired?
    Asinine to score (GB didn’t put up much resistance) and give ’em a chance w/ about 1:25 to go. Damn near returned the KO for a score and almost tied it anyway at the end. Humongous blunder on his part. He should stick to what he does best — standing on the field of play impeding opposing returners.

    • NoFear49er says:

      He probably didn’t want to get fired for extreme stupidity yet. Jacoby Jones always gets illegal help on his long returns. (see SB) Coach just trying to reverse the trend.

  38. That SEA was just what the doctor ordered — for them to win the SB. The last 7 teams to win it have lost one of their two final regular season games. They now qualify. After we win tomorrow, we best take a dump in Arizona.

  39. NoFear49er says:

    Foles falls back to earth at some point. Is it tonight?

  40. 12th man says:

    Wow, all Eagles right now.

  41. 12th man says:

    Earth to Foles

  42. I think we best be rooting for those Cowboys next week. I don’t think I want to play the Eagles right now. They’re just young, talented and hot enough not to know any better about playoff pressure. Their D has also come around a bit from an inauspicious start. You can have the Eagles. I don’t wanna play ’em.

  43. And just think about all the blog fodder leading up to playing Tony Romo. Speaking of who, I heard he’s going for an MRI on his back that he supposedly tweaked today. Might wanna scan that brain of his for 4th quarter memory loss and brain farts while they’re at it.

    • 12th man says:

      Romo made a few more good plays than stupid ones today and they squeaked a win against the god awful Skins but they are no power house.

  44. NoFear49er says:

    Yeah, I guess tonight will not be the night Foles slips off the clouds against this D.

  45. 12th man says:

    So much for Chicago O on fire, they need burning.

  46. NoFear49er says:

    Looks like you’ve already racked up 28 points or so, if it’s 6 points for passing TDs. A couple more if it’s PPR, too. Not too bad for a quarter.

  47. 12th man says:

    Bears D can’t tackle for shit.

    • Tackling as a whole in the NFL has hit an all time low. It’s atrocious. Main culprit is the lack of wrapping up properly. Too many guys don’t even look like they know the proper technique. I think it’s not practiced enough throughout the year. And even with these new “No hard hit” rules, guys still looking to make Sportscenter highlights with the big hit rather then making the sure, but nondescript tackle.

  48. NoFear49er says:

    Foles has a ton of weapons and a killer running threat. Like Kelly and the old run and shoot no huddle.

  49. rtfirefly says:

    Disclaimer: I’m only an amateur and I do this by hand!
    Next week gives Phi@Dal and GB@Chi – 4 possibilities.

    Niners at #5 seed gives: Niners@ Chi,GB, or Dal
    Niners at #6 seed gives: Niners@ Chi,Phi, or Dal

    Still open – Niners winning #1 or #2
    Niners not qualifying

    Whew, I think I’ve got a headache. Doc said, “Take 2 Cowboys defenses and call me in the morning!”

  50. snarkk says:

    Maybe the Shawks lost just to F with the Niners. Now, the Cards have a real reason to play the Niners tough in the last game as they’ll still be in the hunt for the POs, I think, even if Niners win tomorrow, because Saints might lose next Sunday. Shawks probably not real interested in the game today. With Panthers beating Saints, that keeps open the possibility of Carolina going to Seattle and beating Shawks, and Niners hosting the NFC champ game at the Stick. They better not rip up the field tomorrow night after the “last game” at the Stick…

  51. 12th man says:

    Squawks have now lost 2 out of the last 3 games, both against division rivals. Not the best way to head into the play offs even if they beat the Rams which is also not a given.

  52. Now that RTF did his homework (thanks, btw) good chance we could miss PHI in WC rd. PHI wins out and they’re the 3. We’d play either CHI/GB mostly likely.

    And I think there’s something more wrong with Rodgers then they’re letting on. GB could make the SB and I still think he wouldn’t be cleared medically. And if he says he can play, and it’s truly a medical decision to keep him out, I’d tell ’em I’m signing a medical waiver and you play my ass. Enough of this BS about legality and suing the NFL. Sign a waiver and play. You get hurt further, tough shit. You knew the risk.

    • philippinefan says:

      Its still the teams choice no matter what the player wants. May be better to save him for next year. RGIII aside.

      • 12th man says:

        It’s controversial and John Madden had a point but i agree with resting RG3. He was misused badly last year and was not ready this year. I also think he is somewhat over rated but still.

        With Rogers I have to believe his injury is more than they have said. GB is still in the hunt yet their star player is not playing over 7 weeks after a broken bone? Has to be more to it. No team risks missing the play offs if their star could play.

        Also, no way Squawks tanked a game at home. Their mystique was shattered today. Things like that can bring down a house of cards. Confidence has to be shaken losing 2 of last 3 and a division foe to play next week.

  53. snarkk says:

    With Browner out suspended however long, Shawks are now officially PEDs central for the NFL. Where’s Goodie with some kind of sanctions on an NCAA-like “institutional lack of control”? Oh, too busy flagging D-linemen for smashing QBs in the pocket…

  54. philippinefan says:

    About Falcons per podcast mentioned above:

    -Mike Nolan is D coordinator likes to play cover 3 pass D (prevent?) and that not very well. We should make hay with our deep passing game which is Kaps forte. Best defeated by deep passes (VD) should see a lot of that to test vertically.

    – Easier to stop Falcons run w/ our base nickel. Falcons are Last # runs/game (we are first in runs/pass ratio)
    – pressure on their OL = falls apart
    – lack personnel on O
    – T Gonzales te exception

    1:00:00 mark

    Niners building on new and previous concepts structurally, conceptually on D against cover 3 not read option. For instance in particular on O: reading DT on read option play by LMJ, inside power run to Boldin, fly sweep to LMJ, outside runs, sweeps by KH

    Should a good game on MNF. May the better 49ers win big

  55. 12th man says:

    This game is embarrassing for the Bears. Division winners don’t usually play like this in December. NFC North and NFC East .have been a tallest leprechaun contest but the Eagles are separating themselves from the rest.

    Good teams: Niners, Squawks, Panthers. Second tier Arizona, NO, Eagles. Wannabees: Bears, Pack, Cowboys.

    I am biased of course but I would take the Niners over any of them right now.

    • NoFear49er says:

      Their defense is better than shows tonight and they made a mistake sitting McCown IMO.
      I like our chances as well. But we’ve been known to throw up a real stinker, too, when the opposing D surprises us.

  56. I know the Bears won last week in CLE w/ Cutler, but I still think Trestman made the wrong move in ditching the hot hand w/ JM. Not that McCown woulda made world of difference tonight, but I’m just thinking w/ the overall continuity of the club. But I’ll give Marc credit, he said all along Cutler would be the starter again when healthy and he stayed true to his word.

    • 12th man says:

      Good point you bring up. Should a coach stay “loyal” and bring back the injured QB over the hot back up?
      Harbs took a lot of shit for benching Alex but he was right and I think Trestman was wrong. Cutler did get the win last week but barely. Having said that Cutler is a good 4th qtr QB so maybe an epic comeback tonight?

      • NoFear49er says:

        The HC should always go with what’s best for the team, short and long term. That includes hurting the million dollar QB’s feelings beyond recovery in this instance I guess.

      • 12th man says:

        That’s my stance too, if it improves the team do it.

  57. 33-11 at the moment. You don’t see that score too often.

  58. The Bears run D is just flat out god awful. No two ways about it. We play the WC game in the Windy City and we might rush for 300 yds. that day. They stink.

    • rtfirefly says:

      #5:Root for the Iggles AND Bears
      #6:Root for the Boys (sorry, impossible) and Bears

      I love this permutation shit. That said, just brīng ’em on, anywhere, anytime, and keep ’em coming. I don’t give a rat’s ass who or where.

      Only exception is that I’d love to see the Saints/Panthers@Candlestick for the NFC Championship. Candlestick would go out like “Camille”. Just when you really, truly think she’s dead this time, she hangs on for another act.

    • 12th man says:

      Honestly it would be amazing. I haven’t given up hope of home field throughout yet 🙂

  59. 12th man says:

    Tackling has been atrocious.

  60. 12th man says:

    oh lordy, lordy.

  61. That’s just Jay being Jay right there…

  62. 12th man says:

    I want to see that movie “grudge match”.

  63. 12th man says:

    Cutler benched lol

  64. That new “Grudge Match” flick looks like it might be a hoot. Great cast. You guys ever hit the theater on Christmas Day? A lot of “Berg’s” and “Stein’s” eating popcorn. No problem finding a guy if you’re in need of a quick circumcision. 😛

  65. 12th man says:

    Dude, seriously?

  66. Chicago should be embarrassed. Their run D has now passed comical, and has landed on utterly sad. Shame on you.

  67. NoFear49er says:

    Even the cheerleaders are getting gassed.

  68. philippinefan says:

    Wow, lets play Chicago

  69. 12th man says:

    (D)allass D was missing today but Chicago’s was invisible.

  70. rtfirefly says:

    They’re still playing? They need a Little League 10 run rule.

  71. 12th man says:

    Chicago D played the kneel down perfectly

  72. 12th man says:

    I don’t know if the Eagles won or the Bears went fetal at the coin toss.

  73. NJ49er says:

    Roger and The Smoking Jacket Contingent get what they want through Officiating.
    The great equalizer.
    Talk now of Centralized Replay?
    Who cares?
    All that does is remove the On Field Crews from culpability.
    You see what happens to Seattle when the laundry starts flying.
    Officiating is too abitrary to begin with. The Brooks hit on Brees, the non calls in the End Zone to Crabtree during the SB.

    These flaming tools in stripes are adversely impacting games at a ridiculous pace this year.
    There’s enough technology available right now to introduce electronic/video related controls to curb this BS.

    These clowns don’t deserve that amount of control. Totally out of control IMO.

    • Dont you think a few qualified officials posted away from the heat of the action, uninfluenced by the crowd, with replay at hand could make better calls? Got to be better than what we have now me thinks.

  74. NJ49er says:

    One thing I’d also suspect, the Drama Factor, points at Aaron getting cleared for the Bears game too.
    The NFC East Sudden Death Match in Dallas next Sunday Night is a win/win either way.
    Jerruh on the Big Stage in the Big Luxury Penthouse is just what the Smoking Jacket Contingent lives for.
    Stroking their own.

    Jerruhs’ A$$hole will have a new nickname for that showdown.
    Titus Fishcunt.

  75. unca_chuck says:

    I’ve been saying it all year. There really has to be fundamental changes around officiating. Too many od these calls are game-changers, and they are random in their application and effectiveness. And it really seems likve these calls have been really bad just in the last couple years. There used to be 1 or 2 calls a year that were real bad. Now it’s like 1 or 2 a week.

    Just saw the Pittsburgh highlights. They call Pitts for batting the ball forward on the blocked FG. Something they completely missed in the Niner game last week. And they don’t call possession when Pitts recovered it and tried a lateral. Nuts.

    • NJ49er says:

      Absolute joke Chuck.
      I’ve joked for years about my imaginary Smoking Jacket theory.
      Anymore, it really seems to me, like they have that much control via the Officiating.
      2 Divisions coming down to the final game of the regular Season?
      Ironic or contrived?

      Harbaugh lobbied hard last year for flags on the Seattle CBs for aggressive hand contact etc.
      Went largely ignored until this year.
      Too much personal interpretation from Official to Official, little to no continuity from Crew to Crew.
      Cheapens the game and, gives the appearance of collusion.

      Ruining the game in so many ways.

      • NJ49er says:

        All it takes is one piece of flying laundry to change the outcome of a game or, one Official to ignore the obvious and swallow the whistle at the wrong time.

        That non call in Carolina with Gronk getting mugged is a perfect example.
        There has to be some option made available to challenge the Officials for missed or questionable calls IMO.

        They hold too much control, while making too many mistakes.
        Competiton Committees are window dressing too. Keep introducing new standards yet never seeming to stay consistant with their application from game to game.

        Ludicrous to laughable anymore.

      • NJ49er says:

        Sick of all the Dean Blandino post-mortem BS too.
        Thanks Dino, the whole world knew at the moment it happened it was BS, yet nothing could be done to get it rectified before the game outcome was altered.
        WTF is that all about?
        Vegas Cha-Ching is what that’s all about, followed by one Teams owner getting back-slapped while the other got flipped off.

      • 12th man says:

        They called a few more than usual on Squawks but missed a number too. Funny for me was Sherman got O PI called for him. Not so funny when it’s done against him.

        Anywho, so much for the unbeatable at home Squawks who are now facing their 3rd division rival in 4 weeks and have lost to the other 2 so far. How confident can the Squawks really be now? If the Niners win tomorrow the pressure is really on for the Squawks, when was their last “must win” game exactly?

        I said earlier, I like the Niners chances more than any other team in the NFC right now with the way they are playing. Maybe tomorrow isn’t the last game to be played at the stick, we shall see. Have to handle their business tomorrow first though.

      • NJ49er says:

        That’s what concerns me 12th.
        We’re rolling and playing good football right now.
        I want to believe we have the momentum factor yet, these idiots in stripes have the authority to kick anyone in the bean bag at will.

        I’m all for a Seattle meltdown too.
        Couldn’t happen to a more deserving group of chest thumping blow-hards, who haven’t done anything beyond screaming like a bunch of groupies at Backstreet Boys Concert.
        I absolutely love when the lead dog feels like he won the race before he crosses the finish line.
        Mugging WRs, PED infractions galore etc.
        Rah-rah-rant 12th Man, you too can be beat.
        Eff those smuglies.
        I want a shot at Jerruh and Pete, for the right to settle the score.
        Doing it on Candlestick turf would be a fitting tribute to history too.

      • NJ49er says:

        As the scenario goes for us, NFC Championship loss to SB loss, I want the chance for atonement, which is fueled by desire and hard work.
        Not striped shirted clowns taking control of the outcomes with flying yellow flags.

        Let good old fashioned ‘competition’ dictate the results.
        Everyone wants to chastise Harbaugh for working the Officials but, as much as it looks petty at times, he might have a point.
        Be seen, be heard or, be ignored and gored by their incompetence.

        I just hope we can control our own destiny.
        Hoisting Number 6 in NJ would be TOOOOOO Eff’n sweet for me.

  76. philippinefan says:

    Can anyone tell me what the downside of a centralized, hopefully consistent, off-site replay and penalty review system would be? I cant think of any myself. Current system not working for sure. Also like the idea of coaches getting to call for reviews and possible overturn of supposed penalties called by refs.

    • philippinefan says:

      Any review of penalties would have to be offsite as there would be too much pressure on local refs Not to overturn their crewmates piss poor calls. Presumably NFL Central would be less influenced by Buddy Bobs hurt feelings. Also less gameday emotion and crowd influence. Maybe?

      • NJ49er says:

        Phil I’m at the point where I ask, can it get any worse?
        They’ve gotta be feeling the pressure from all of us.
        It’s impossible to hide incompetence of this magnitude.

        All Dino does is deflect and diffuse.
        That’s BS.
        Find a way to fix it or, you’re just part of the problem.
        Spare me the face-time with clicker in hand, camera time.
        You’re too late.
        The game is over, the damage done.
        Words are garbage after the fact.

      • philippinefan says:

        “…I’m at the point where I ask, can it get any worse?”

        Actually Yes it really does seem to be getting worse as Chuck mentioned and thats scary

    • NJ49er says:

      Hey Phil.
      In theory it ‘should’ improve consistancy with the Officiating process.
      It’s the implementation factor that has to be addressed.
      With as many as 6-8 games being played simultaeniously on any given Sunday, the potential to further slow down the game action exists.
      From everything I’ve seen and read, the League wants to speed up the process.

      It has to be tried no matter what IMO.
      Too many blown/non-calls being made.
      I would welcome any technology that would also provide electronic means to act as additional ‘eyes’ to officiate the games.

      Non-calls are as detrimental as blown calls. With HD screens in all these Stadiums, why are Officials sticking their heads into a microwave oven sized cavity to determine the outcome of a call?
      Even after reviewing many of these calls, they still aren’t getting them corrected in some cases.
      A 20′ tall video screen makes it obvious to fans in the Stadium but the striped shirt crew still look at each other and scratch their heads.

      Put a committee of ‘League Officials’ in NYC and give it a whirl.
      Nothing to lose, everything to gain.
      The on field crews are too inconsistant of late.

      • philippinefan says:

        Yep agree with all this NJ. “Hopefully” it would be better?

      • NJ49er says:

        Phil the technology affords the game all sorts of improvement options.
        Wireless communications, HD capabilities, unlimited camera angles, you name it.
        The game is a money machine.
        What’s the reason to ignore technology options?
        The human factor is harming the integrity of the game as it stands right now.

        Get the calls right.
        Employ the technology, improve the tools these Officials need to keep pace.

      • philippinefan says:

        Agree tech is there and should be used. Some of the ‘human factor’ (gambling, greed, addiction to power and control-it’s #1!) will always interfere sadly but using tech and uniform criteria for calls on plays and penalties will help for sure. Right now its very bad and not working

  77. NoFear49er says:

    Phil, centralized equates to power grab for dear leader. It is the guidance from the top that is mostly screwing up these zebras and their calls already. The officials can do a good job of calling most plays but this league influence on what side of calls to err on and who to protect and gets no call scrutiny is part of the power grab play.

    President Zero doesn’t give a shit who gets better medical care and who dies without it. His agenda is grabbing up all the power to decide who wins and who loses and the power to bestow his “mercy and grace” on whomsoever he chooses at the moment. Is that the abyss you want the NFL to fall further into?

    btw, I dl’d the podcast. You’re a better man than I am if you could get through the entire thing with your sanity intact. Those guys discuss some worthwhile issues but with so much kiddie crap surrounding it I had to unplug. My impression is they are mostly stat geeks attempting to explain the stats.

    • NJ49er says:

      Hey NoFear49er –
      Nothing worse than new rules that can’t be interpreted and applied consistantly, for sure.
      No continuity, less accountability.

      We have HD cameras, TVs and Video Boards making EVERYTHING available to scrutiny.
      How the eff do they still blow the reviews as often as they do?
      Self preservation might have some influence there perhaps?
      Jeff Triplett alone is the poster child for Mr Magoo wears a whistle and striped shirt, coming to an NFL Stadium near you.
      A complete and utter incompetent moron yet, he’s still getting paid.
      One of Dean Blandino’s Blind Mice.

      This garbage has to END.

      • NoFear49er says:

        My solution would be less is more as far as rules, and therefore infractions, go, so get rid of some of the stupid ones and take away officials’ judgment calls everywhere as far as possible.

        Make it black and white and the guys on the field will almost always get it right. They can’t see everything and savvy players are pretty good at hiding their penalty-worthy acts but some things just are part of the game. As long as they fall pretty equally I’ve got no problem.

      • NJ49er says:

        Dumb it down, speed it up NoFear49er.
        Put all of them into the technology age.
        Wireless, real-time communications.
        In game tutoring and assistance is good for the game.
        You can’t have a 50 year old guy trying to keep pace with 20-something athletes.
        Use cameras and communications to assist with all the areas of weakness.
        Get younger Officials if need be.

        Find answers.
        Stop the BS, get it right before ruining a good game.

      • NoFear49er says:

        I see your point NJ49er, but I’m not one that wants to get every play 100% reviewed for the sake of perfection in officiating. It was a great game before we had all these reviews imperfect as it was.

      • NJ49er says:

        I hear you NoFear49er.
        I don’t want it perfect either, it’ll never happen.
        I just want a way to get whatever is reviewable, corrected before damage is inflected on the outcome of the games.

        They’re either looking for answers or, they’re creating a bigger problem right now.
        Don’t review a call just to say it was reviewed.
        If we can see what happened, they should too.
        Something smells rotten to me.
        Way too many sad-sack excuses coming from NYC about this topic for me.

        ‘Gee whizz, sorry about that, yada-yada-yada’.
        See the problem, correct it, move on.

      • NJ49er says:

        There’s absolutely no good answer for showing us a game in HD , where everything is open to scrutiny, without some sort of integrity being applied to what these players are there to do.
        Fine by me when the camera caught a player grabbing private parts last week and levied a fine on him.
        That let’s them know the ‘public eye’ caught you.
        If the same camera sees a missed call, communicate it to the field and enforce it.
        That in it’s own way tells the players, you can’t get away with dirty play.
        It will improve the game.
        I’m not lobbying for ticky-tac nonsense calls.
        PI and headshots would be a perfect place to focus.
        If a clown like Sherman gets put in the lens enough, his habits would change.
        No different than hitting Goldson and others in the wallet for head shots.
        Sooner or later someone has to succumb and toe the line.

    • philippinefan says:

      Yeah I see the issue of Big Brother Commish furthering his influence over ‘how’ penalties are called = certain agendas like avoiding lawsuits and the ever popular power and control grabs. Hard to eliminate those. Hoping for a more uniform application of the rules which isnt the case now, ie, was this hit in the ‘strike zone’, yes? no? WTF IS an illegal hit on QB this week? Seems way to subjective called on the field. Maybe part of the subjective and just wrong calls would be corrected. Would need offsite reviews if refs are to be held accountable for bad penalty calls I think.

      Yeah the kids on the podcast are 20 somethings but I grin and bear it since there is so little football news much less analysis, no TV, radio, etc. No Americans either. Just me and the coconuts.

      • NJ49er says:

        Phil, at least the coconuts serve a purpose.
        These Officials are about as hard headed as those coconuts, with much less credability.

      • NoFear49er says:

        I see what you mean Phil, at least they mostly keep it on football. When I’m driving I usually keep the radio on Sirius 88 the NFL channel. Lots and lots of garbage and some gems now and then. As background noise it’s perfect when it’s just me.

      • NJ49er says:

        Sure technology might eliminate jobs in all sectors of our lives somewhere but, if it improves your way of life, go with it.
        Who stands in line for a cashier if self check-out is an option?
        Have to find ways to improve.
        Game is too fast for old and slow methods of the past.

      • philippinefan says:

        Yep coconuts more useful, less filling…than current crop of refs. So not only am I ‘blind’ (no visuals) but deaf (no radio) and starving for info. Luckily I got KNBR (I think) on and youse guys.

        Final thought: Quoting Ted Robinson re: the refs, he says “I dont even know what a catch is anymore!”

  78. NJ49er says:

    Here’s the skinny Boys…Keep The Faith.

    San Francisco clinches NFC West and home-field advantage with:

    1) SF win (Week 16) + SF win (Week 17) + SEA loss + CAR loss

  79. NJ49er says:

    Consider this as well.
    Seattle has attempted to challenge the Drug Testing system on several occassions.
    Aldon and the 9ers took immediate steps in-house to get him into rehab.
    We got Goodells’ blessing for doing so.

    Possible that the Smoking Jacket Contingent can wield some Officiating muscle, in important games, that impact Playoff seeding?
    Who determines which Officiating Crews get assigned where?

    To your point NoFear49er, too much clout in anyones hands opens the door to corruption.

    Call me skeptical.
    Too much money at stake to ignore the possibilities, that those in control of the bottom line, look out for themselves.

  80. NJ49er says:

    Merry Christmas Gents!
    Be back with you all next weekend.

    Go 9ers tonight, take care of BUSINESS!
    No Dirty Bird party on our turf!
    Enjoy the Holiday!

  81. Nipper says:


  82. unca_chuck says:

    New thread is up.

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