Niners Looking to Move On Up?

Jason Cole must be reading my stuff. He’s reporting that the Niners may look to trade up to the middle of the first round. I’d think the one and only reason to trade up would be to get Kenny Vaccaro, the outstanding safety from Texas. I had the Niners tradibng with Miami or some shit for a good spot in Round 1, but with the Jets suddenly trading their shit for Darrelle Revis, they may look to trade down for more selections as well.

At least we’re getting closer to draft day . . .

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42 Responses to Niners Looking to Move On Up?

    • Del Mar Dennis says:

      What’s sad is that whoever wrote that ad wasn’t trying to be funny. They just put Tony instead of Sergio. And I think I could use an editor.

  1. Nipper says:

    You’re thinking again Chuck. That’s dangerous! I hope you get something right so you can crow about it to us plebeians.

    • Del Mar Dennis says:

      I prefer hoi polloi myself, but you’re right. Nothing but a bunch of plebs hanging out here on Chuck’s Niner blog. We’re one step above a homeless camp.

  2. unca_chuck says:

    You and Nippy certainly are.

  3. NJ49er says:

    Here’s this years’ Wish List …..
    No ILBs as I don’t think we’ll Draft any –
    A guy like Alex Brown has versatility but likely goes much higher than I’d be inclined to use a pick at that position.

    I think OLBs in this group could be good fits for us, we’ll see……

    FS – Eric Reid / David Amerson – CB Conversion / Bacarri Rambo
    SS – Earl Wolff / Jon Cyprien / Shawn Williams / **Cooper Taylor – Richmond
    CB -Jonathan Banks / Robert Alford / Blidi Wreh-Wilson
    OLB -Jamie Collins / Corey Lemonier / Zaviar Gooden
    DE -Margus Hunt / Datone Jones / Tank Carradine
    NT – John Jenkins / Montori Hughes / Brandon Williams
    DT -Jesse Williams / Akeem Spence / Josh Boyd
    RB -Le’Veon Bell / Zac Stacy / Jonathan Franklin
    TE -Joe Fauria / Gavin Escobar / Vance McDonald
    WR/Slot – Quinton Patton / Markus Wheaton / Josh Boyce
    WR/Outside – Justin Hunter / Marquess Wilson / Robert Woods
    Specialists -Ace Sanders – PR / Zach Brown (Ramirez)- K / Dennard Robinson – All around gadget Player
    OC -Brian Schwenke / Barrett Jones / Travis Frederick
    OG -JC Tretter / Eric Herman / Vinston Painter – Conversion from OT
    OT -Terron Armstead / Menelik Watson / David Quessenberry
    QB – Matt Scott / AZ / Collin Klein / K St / Zac Dysert / Miami OH
    Risk/Reward – RB Marcus Lattimore / CB Tyrann Mathieu / WR Da’Rick Rogers

    Sleeper Picks –
    OG Earl Watford / James Madison
    OG Blaize Foltz / TCU
    OT Luke Marquardt / Azusa Pacific – Converted TE – Major upside
    Schooled by Jackie Slater
    WR Chris Harper / K-State
    H-Back-TE / WR Mark Harrison / Rutgers
    DT Chris Jones / Bowling Green
    DT Jared Smith – UNH
    DT Nick Williams / Samford
    DE Lawrence Okoye – Great Britain Discus Olympian
    DE Quanterus Smith / W. Kentucky
    OLB/DE Ty Powell / Harding
    OLB/DE David Bass / MO Western St

    • NoFear49er says:

      Hey NJ49er! Good list. Are we targeting some players on Thursday and Friday or is BPA the order of the day? If it’s BPA who do have in your top ten?

      • NJ49er says:

        Thanks NoFear49er.
        Guys I like are predicated on what I perceive to be available at our slots.

        I’m all in for Tavon, Eifert, Vaccaro, for instance but, we won’t see them unless we make a major expenditure to deal up. Some will cost more than I’d be willing to spend but, Baalke has the ammo to do it.

        One guy I absolutely want is OLB Jamie Collins. He could be had in Rd2, maybe 3?

        I’d like Eric Reid, David Amerson, Le’Veon Bell for example, (all guys on my list).

        I’ve combed thru Bio info for months.
        I don’t know much more than what the numbers give me and, the few guys I’ve seen play.

        Tavon is a TERROR.
        I watch quite a bit of WVU Football simply because my Son is an Alum.
        Can he survive the NFL? Hard to say. Little guy certainly. But, he comes to play.
        If we can’t have him, I hope our Division foes don’t get him.

        The question becomes…..SLOTTING.
        If I could do that, I’d have Baalke’s job.
        Not easy.
        Many good options, lots of guys I’d like to have.
        Will we have a shot at them is the question.

        One rule I live by with football. Find guys that like to play, not guys looking to be paid.
        For that reason, I like the Small School guys a little more.
        Give me the high motor, relentless worker that loves smacking guys around, and sign him up.
        We’ll see what shakes out.

      • NJ49er says:

        To your BPA question, I think I’d buy that philosophy everyday of the week.
        Get Football players.
        We have time to develop them now.

  4. RTFirefly says:

    Apropos of absolutely nothing, I’m building a bookcase today and brimming with excitement and anticipation.
    I consulted a shaman here in the Land of Enchantment and, after careful and prolonged revelry, he consulted his spirit animal and told me to listen to this song.
    I’m still not sure if he was just trying to calm me down or if the “sand” reference was referring to ground pounding/earth shaking (both likely), so:
    1st round – trade up for Defensive Tackle

    Anyways, since nobody really has a clue and I HATE SPAM, enjoy:

  5. RTFirefly says:

    He wasn’t finished yet. Nor am I, with the bookcase I mean. This is far more appropriate, and what I want in a Left Defensive End for a bookend to Aldon – trade all those 3rds-7th for another 1st.

  6. RTFirefly says:

    I can’t find him now – the Shaman, I mean. I take it to mean he’s immersing himself in some local botanical studies to conjure up a Strong Safety with few, if any, draft picks left.
    Wake me when rookie camp starts, mini-camp for Vets, ANYTHING!

  7. Del Mar Dennis says:

    Doesn’t look like Cyprien will get past Cincinnati at 21. That would only leave Elam and Reid at 31 should we stand pat. No thanks to either of those two. Either move up to draft Vaccaro or Richardson then p/u a safety like D.J.Swearinger by moving up again in the 2nd rd.

    13 picks. I’ll set the O/U of actual drafted players at 7 1/2. I hope it’s only four.

    • RTFirefly says:

      Nose, nose, nose. Then pass rush. This year I’m playing Renoberger with a reason: when Justin went out, the defense collapsed. It was dreadfully, painfully obvious.
      Dennis, when does FF start again? The Roadrunners (nee UFO Coyotes) are hungry.

  8. unca_chuck says:

    The closer we get the more I’m convinced we trade up.

    • NJ49er says:

      Certainly have the pesos to get there.
      Is there a guy worth a big splash like that?
      We’ll find out soon enough.

    • NJ49er says:

      I’m leery of spending a ton of Picks for anyone but……
      I’ll trust our Scouts and GM to know that answer.

      As stated many times, Tavon is a weapon. Will he change things that much?
      I’d consider a splash for him and Vaccaro, maybe a DLine guy.
      Can’t wait to see the fireworks Thursday night.

      I’d feel better dealing into Rd 2 and 3 where prices are more affordable though.

  9. Nipper says:

    I’m just waiting to see how many Chuck gets right.

    • NoFear49er says:

      No more Kentwans I hope.

      Anyway we must stay with #31 to help John with whomever is falling at that point. Something about the Boldin deal not mentioned I think.

  10. unca_chuck says:

    I think they either get Vaccaro or Cyprien wit the trade-up.

  11. unca_chuck says:

    Jets or Miami being our trade partners.

  12. RTFirefly says:

    I now have:
    Rd 1 #25 (obtained from picks 2/63, 3/74, 3/93, 4/128, 4/131)
    Tank Carradine, DE Fla St
    (outside shot – either of the Tenn WRs)

    Rd 1 #31 Jon Cyprien, S Fla Intl

    Rd 2 #34 Jesse Williams, NT Ala

    That leaves 6 camp players from Rds 5-7. Package them for future choices. Or stick them on David Akers doorstep in the middle of the night.

    Now that we know what WON’T happen (I’ve never been remotely right on the draft since I picked the 2013 Arena League MVP Nate the Great), it should be fun if I can stay awake through all the NFL/TV hoopla. I usually make it, but it’s a serious challenge compared to reading about it the next morning.

    • Del Mar Dennis says:

      Yes to Cyprien, big NO to Jesse Williams. He’s a one-trick pony (had a few encounters w/ those in my life) who just plugs the run. Offers no pass rush and won’t play on 3rd downs. I demand much more from that pick. Maybe a D. Jones from UCLA if we remain at 31 and 34.

    • Del Mar Dennis says:

      I saw you posted “Tank” over at Skeebers, but I didn’t see it here. Not the first time I missed the enchilada.

      • RTFirefly says:

        Just trying to spread the wealth – as far as the picks go, I am the worst “authority” you could find. If I had a dartboard, I would do far better. Even better if I weren’t a fair dart player (stories there for the REALLY boring preseason days).
        Just working out in the offseason…
        How’s the collarbone?

      • Del Mar Dennis says:

        Doing my best to numb the shoulder/arm pain and everything else that is attached. Thanks for asking.

  13. Del Mar Dennis says:

    “Tank” Carradine could be another DE with one of those two picks. But I wanna move up! If Star is still sitting there at 10, Baalke best load that gun with some serious ammo and pull the goddamn trigger.

    • JDR says:

      Star is just about the only guy i want to see them move up significantly for. Otherwise I think they should sit and wait to see who falls through to 31. It should be one of the DL or DBs that they can work with, maybe both.

      The Niners have their all-pros in place. At this point, I’d rather they hit three doubles with their picks and get reliable players than one home run that leaves holes elsewhere.

      • Del Mar Dennis says:

        Also wouldn’t mind moving up to grab Richardson from Missouri. We’ve had good luck with those Tigers from Mizzou.

      • JDR says:

        Depends with Richardson. 3-4 DEs are so damn hard to figure out, do we get Justin Smith, Ray McDonald or Kentwan Ballmer? If they trade up for Richardson and keep either 31 or 34, I’m uneasy but okay. Give up both? Run and fetch ma’ pitchfork.

      • Del Mar Dennis says:

        Might as well grab your torch and roundup the angry villagers while you’re at it. It will cost 31 and 34 to move up into that 13-15 range. Mayock had Star going to the ‘Boys at 18 in his mock. No way can I see him lasting to 18. Chance he goes either to the Eagles or Lions at 4 or 5.

  14. Del Mar Dennis says:

    Eric Fisher, not Luke Joeckel will go 1st overall to the Chiefs. Book it! He’ll be the OT/sieve/turnstile that gets Alex Smith killed in KC next year. That is of course if we don’t bury him in our preseason game earlier. That would be one gigantic hoot. Fangio sends Craig Dahl of all people on a safety blitz. Down goes Alex.

    • NoFear49er says:

      I doubt Dahl will ever be close enough to the LOS or even the tackle box for that, in a regular season game anyway. He’s a coverage guy and we’ll have to change up our secondary to start him.

      Wait, did you say Fangio and safety blitz together as if there was a logical intersection of their Venn diagram?

  15. RTFirefly says:

    “Niner says:
    April 24th, 2013 at 10:03 pm
    I find local people who watched every game last year, some more than once, are expecting major picks in the DL. The DL needs to be set ala the ol for years to cone. We saw our secondary become extremely suspect after Justin smith went down. Alton got no, read No sacks after that. No pass rush no Super Bowl. The idea we trade up to get a wr kick returner or te is sports illustrated stuff. I’m hoping a 1981 type draft ( Lott wright Williamson and pass rushing Fred dean etc..) will be light years better than the last off season. ( Jacobs and Jenkins? You gotta be kidding me!)”

    Chuck, if you don’t know, I only post on yours and Skeebs’ blogs.

    The sentiment does ring familiar, however.

    • NoFear49er says:

      Quite right RT. Funny thing is, at the time it was happening I felt like the lone ranger trying to make the same point. Seems nearly everyone was in the bag for Justin being just fine with one good arm and/or RJF being absolutely fine as a replacement for him. My biggest question was why Fangio didn’t ever come up with a better solution for it. He said RJF played great, right up until he held the exit door open for him.

      • RTFirefly says:

        I think Reno is absolutely right. Good noses are hard to find and essential in a 3-4.
        DL is #1 for him, for me it’s the OL (on which I would like more depth).
        This year I’m running with Reno and the DL. S/CB for sure, and I won’t be the least bit disappointed if that’s how the Niner draft goes.
        I just want Jesse Williams to piss Dennis off, and Nate the New Great Montana to get picked in the 7th.

  16. RTFirefly says:

    The first excerpt was from the Merc (my birthplace!) from a guy I don’t know. Spitty posted after, and it was he for whom I was looking.
    The second reference is to Renoberger, my long time friend.

  17. Irish Kevin says:

    this guy is a freind of a frend, of a freind. anyone know anything about Luke Marquardt OT?

  18. unca_chuck says:

    He’s an OT from the powerhouse NCAA program, Azusa Pacific. He joined the squad as a redshirt freshman. Quite the jump there, kid.

    New thread is up.

    No way the Niners waste a pick on Nate Montana. If they had 12 rounds, he wouldn’t get drafted.

  19. unca_chuck says:

    NEw thread isw up if you missed that in the last post.

  20. 12th man says:

    Been unexpectedly very busy of late and had no time to keep track of the draft prospects, my thanks to NJ for doing the grunt work. I would like to see Richardson and Reid/Cyprien by whatever mechanism Baalke figures out. Richardson possibly with the Jets pick and Reid/Cyprien with the Niners 31 or 34 whichever they still have after trading. After that I think the draft is deep in positions of need so I don’t see why they should trade up as WR, SS, FS, CB and second tier TE all seem very similar to me and available in rounds 3 through 5/6. I also expect to see some horse trading into next years draft.

    I will definitely be watching avidly tonight to see what Baalke has up his sleeve this time.

    Go Niners!

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