Pass Rush, Pass Rush. My Kingdom for a Pass Rush

Of all the needs the 49ers had this last offseason, the one they didn’t particularly address very much is pass rusher. They have a bunch of middling guys who have shown a bit here and there, Arik Armstead, Eli Harold, Elvis Dumervil, Brock Coyle, Malcolm Smith, a late sign (and late bloomer), Cassius Marsh, and ex-Charger Jeremiah Attaochu.

Armstead, a solid run defender, has not panned out as the pass rusher he was supposed to be. Then again, he has been forced to change his position to make room for Salomon Thomas, from DE to OLB, and lose a bunch of weight to do that. He has always been raw, and with untimely injuries to boot, he hasn’t reached his potential. He has freakish size and speed, but as of now he’s a man without a position. He seemed to be a much better player as a bigger DE rather than a lighter OLB, but we’ll see. We have a lot of guys at DE but at least Carradine is gone. So what the future holds for AA is a mystery, but  he’s still in their plans because they picked up his fifth year option. Maybe they try Salomon Thomas as an OLB on pass rushing downs? Shit, I don’t know. All I know is we need more pressure, and none of these guys have been a very big presence (and you can throw in DFB in the mix here) as the dominant edge rushing force.

Eli Harold, we all know about.  He’s been underwhelming, yet he sticks around. Dumervil is gone, and Brock Coyle is a decent LB who sucks in coverage. M Smith has yet to play a down for us, and that leads to Cassius Marsh.

Marsh had a couple sacks for us late last year after being pretty much a big fail in New England.  The Pats gave Seattle a 5th and 7th round pick for him, nothing too costly, but he lasted all of 9 games before being dumped by the Pats in late November. We signed him the next day. For whatever reason, he seemed to fit here much better, and he’s played well enough to garner a 2 year deal from the Niners as he’s provided some pass rush, and is a solid special teamer.

Which leads to Jeremiah Attaochu. He’s another guy with freakish athleticism who has had some injury issues. Beyond that, he was behind Joey Bosa on the Bolts’ depth chart, so he didn’t get a ton of opportunities once he got healthy,

So there you have it. We have a lot of pieces, a lot of potential, a few too many DEs, and a scheme that needs to be put together to get all these guys in place to wreak havoc. I’m completely fine with how these guys should defend the run, but pass rush has been my concern for a while now.

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49 Responses to Pass Rush, Pass Rush. My Kingdom for a Pass Rush

  1. I think we’re going to surprise a lot of people this year!

  2. Rob says:

    I went to school with Joey Bosa’s father John< who was a number 1 draft pick for the Dolphins.

  3. alleykat69 says:

    Linebackers still looks like a need to me, with Foster’s Freeze possibly on ice, who’s stepping up?Hopefully Malcom Smith will be healthy and contribute.

  4. Winder says:

    Someone is gonna have to step up with rushing the passer. Looking forward to see how the rookies perform, we should be set with the safeties and CB’s. If Warner is what”s advertised I imagine he will be focused on the RB’s . Hopefully he’s fast enough to disrupt Gurley and the like. Anyway, time is moving like molasses once again.

  5. I liked Hyde, and he is a good RB, but he did not do very well on per carry basis, for whatever reason, I’m still trying to figure it out. Maybe the new back will have the same issues as Hyde? Breida seemed to do better than Hyde, on a per carry basis. For me, what I want to see is more emphasis on using the RB as a RB and pass catcher, as a weapon, NOT so much as a blocker trying to make up for weakness in the OL.Kinda go back to our old school ways.

    • Winder says:

      It is gonna be interesting to see how we use the play action fake. On some plays the RB will swing out for a pass maybe take a linebacker with him. But if it is a pass play the RB should stay there to block, defenses are so fast that the offense needs all the help they can get.

    • Lurker John says:

      The OL should be vastly improved, which should benefit all the RB’s and Jimmy G.

  6. unca_chuck says:

    Shanahan wants a runner with outside speed and pass-catching ability, Travis. Hyde was neither of these. Shanahan, like his dad, likes quicker, more nimble linemen that can block outside and get to the 2nd level on outside runs. The previous style was straight-ahead blocking. Road grading. Something more suited to Hyde’s running style.

    We used play action last year, and we will use it more should McKinnon prove to be successful as an outside rusher and pass catcher. But like Winder said, KcKinnon needs to block well to keep Jimmy G upright. Frank Gore was (and is) one of the best blocking backs in the history of the game. Something overlooked but it shows up on film. He has saved his QBs a lot of pain.

  7. unca_chuck says:

    Wow. I must be important now. A Russian bot pinged my site. Ive gotten a lot of garbage, but nothing from Russia.

    With love, I’m sure.

    • 12th Man says:

      I once checked out Skeebs site from Moscow a few years ago. He wrote a couple of lines of Russian insults thinking he was important.

  8. unca_chuck says:

    Do svidaniya, comrades!!

  9. NJ49er says:

    Looks like we’ve claimed a former NYG CB, CJ Goodwin, off waivers today.
    6’4″/220 and a former WR to boot.
    Can’t say I’ve seen any CBs in that size range too often.
    They also gave a deal to one of the Mini-Camp tryout participants too.
    DL Blaine Woodson of Delaware –

    https://tinyurl.com/y82pocdf

  10. NJ49er says:

    Woodson was a line mate of Bilal Nichols at Delaware – Bears Drafted him in RD5 last month –
    Good numbers for Woodson nonetheless…

    A 22-year-old native of Stroudsburg, PA, Woodson (6-2, 280) attended the University of Delaware. During his five-year career with the Blue Hens (2013-17), he played in 45 games (44 starts) and registered 159 tackles, 21.5 tackles for loss, 14.5 sacks, one interception, one pass defensed and one forced fumble. As a senior in 2017, he started all 11 games in which he appeared, and notched 55 tackles, 3.5 tackles for loss, three sacks, one interception and one forced fumble. In 2016, he started 11 games and finished with 24 tackles, 3.5 tackles for loss and one sack. In 2015, he earned Second-Team All-Colonial Athletic Association honors for the second-consecutive season after starting 11 games and finishing with 29 tackles, 3.5 tackles for loss and two sacks. He appeared in 12 games (11 starts) and registered 51 tackles, 11 tackles for loss and 8.5 sacks in 2014, and earned Second-Team All-Colonial Athletic Association honors after retaining freshman eligibility after not seeing game action in 2013.

  11. NJ49er says:

    Anxious to see Pita T this year and, how Kentavius Street recovers for next year.
    Street was part of the Chubb D-Line at NCST last year, which was a very productive Group.

    Lots of young studs added to the D since last year.
    Hopefully the Plan all comes into focus by next year.

    Nothing but optimism to go on right now but, it is, what it is, as a Fan I guess 😀

    • NJ49er says:

      Ironically, Street and Woodson are identical in HT/WT too.
      Seems like they’ve got a projected scheme/position fit in mind perhaps?

  12. Rob says:

    Tell the russians to send over some hot blondes

  13. Lurker John says:

    Now she’s testified under oath that Foster did not beat her. At all. How long does this fiasco go on?

    https://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Ex-girlfriend-of-49ers-Reuben-Foster-testifies-12922821.php

    • Winder says:

      They will get him for something, hopefully nothing that will get him thrown off the team.

      • Lurker John says:

        They can’t just go outside the parameters of the case and chase anything they want. That’s illegal. It’s either the D.V. or nothing at all. Unless this chick just completely perjured herself, this whole bullshit case should be thrown out. The weapons charge is a separate matter, and, as I understand it, the rifle was hers, not his. I’m not positive about that, though.

  14. alleykat69 says:

    This tramp was accused of lying a few years ago as well in Alabama ,same scenario, hope they throw the book at her.
    Case should of ended today, wtf does the DA need another week for in a case they don’t have now..A weapon charge? Kicked down to a misdemeanor charge, big deal, half the nfl players probably have that lol

  15. Lurker John says:

    She went so far as to say that Foster didn’t lay a hand on her, just that he broke up with her, at which point she threatened to “fuck his shit up.”

  16. unca_chuck says:

    Here’s the article. Seems pretty cut and dried. But dig on the Minnie Miuse ‘do Foster is sporting. His barber should go to jail.

  17. Lurker John says:

    The fact that she “walked back her entire assertion certainly hurts the prosecutions case.” Well, no shit Sherlock. There is no case. But that rarely stops overzealous prosecutors from hanging on too long anyway. Drop this this thing and let the guy get back to doing his job, playing football for the Niners.

    Some of these guys need to learn to stay away from these crazy broads that go off the rails and cause them nothing but heartache. It’s just not worth it.

  18. Lurker John says:

    Johnny Football signs with Hamilton of the CFL.

  19. 12th Man says:

    Looks like Foster has 9 lives. If he didn’t do it he deserves an early resolution, if he did do it but paid her to perjure herself he likely gets this one pass.

    One thing he is guilty of is stupidity, surround yourself with the right people dumbass.

    • Lurker John says:

      Paid her to perjure herself? That’s pretty conspiratorial. She has a history of this kind of behavior, apparently having done something similar before. How about we give him the benefit of the doubt.

      • 12th Man says:

        John, see the word IF?

        The woman is a liar, and that’s now a stone cold fact. Question is which was the lie that he did or didn’t do it?

        As for Foster, I’d say his short history from combine to now shows a series of bad decisions including her, his “benefit of the doubt” box is pretty empty.

        Hopefully he wises up.

      • Winder says:

        Yeah, I don’t think Foster has much of a leash as far as the 49ers concerned. Hopefully he is not really guilty and as stupid as Aldon Smith.

      • 12th Man says:

        Right Winder. Either way I don’t see the DA being able to proceed so now we wait on the gun charge, the weed charge, and whether or not the league decides to levy punishment.

  20. unca_chuck says:

    Never remember this . . .

  21. Berger says:

    One of the comments that got e excited during the draft was regarding Kentavius Street. After our pick they were talking about him and how great that NC ST D-line was. They had Chubb go #5 overall and two others go in the 3rd round. They were all saying what a great talent Street ois and one of them said, paraphrasing, I now they had Chubb but Street is the one who made it all work.

    I know he is out for the year but that comment got me excited about the pick. It is my opinion that it is impossible to have a great defense without very good to great DTs. They shut down the run inside the tackles, which allows the rest of the D to play their assignments instead of loading the box. They also keep the LBs clean and push the front of the pocket into the QBs face so the edge guys can get stats. I feel we got a late first to early 2nd rd pick in the 4th rd. If he is all that then the one year wait is worth every second.

    • Berger says:

      I wish we could go back and edit our spelling and punctuation after the post is made. I need to be a better proof reader. Oh well.

      • Winder says:

        Berger, join the club, just about everyone of my posts has a mistake or two. I just figure people will know what I am talking about. And I love the Street pick. Except for the first 3 picks and Moore they all seem to be risk/reward picks. That just means our team is getting more stable as the time goes. When I think of what Lynch and KS have done with the team in what 16-18 months and the scale of rebuild we have gone through it’s just mind boggling.

  22. Rob says:

    I like when you see your mistake just after you hit ‘post comment’ LOL

  23. Nipper says:

    Go Dubs! GO TEAM!

  24. unca_chuck says:

    Go to the NEXT THREAD!!!

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