The rumors are flying around fast and thick around all of the QBs available, and the teams that need them. Miami apparently wants to trade up desperately to get Josh Rosen. The Bills also want to crack the top 5 for a shot at one of the available guys. Shit, even New England, you know, the team that gave us Jimmy G for a song, is looking to trade up for a replacement for Tom Terrifffffffphhhht. The Browns, Giants, Jets, and Broncos all desperately need a QB. Would that mean that these 4 teams take (in no particular order) Josh Rosen, Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, and Josh Allen?
Since the Browns have 2 of those picks (1 and 4), they should be able to get Saquon Barkley AND a stud QB. Not a bad haul for a team that hired the services of Scott McLoughan. One of the best draft minds out there in football-land. Why he keeps moving around the league remains a mystery, but as of now he’s running the Browns, and I think he will bulky up that team with some great players. What they do with them is another matter for Hue Jackson to figure out, but that’s why they play the games.
As for the Niners, everyone knows what we need. Edge rusher, Guard, Corner, WR. Due to all the insanity around those 4 QBs and who gets them, and where, I still think our choice will come down to the BPA. With a caveat. The best pass rusher, or best guard available at 9. Shit, Lamar Jackson or Mason Rudolph could fly up the board into the top 5, thus making Bradley Chubb or Quentin Nelson available to us, and say, the Colts trade out or get tired of Andrew (un) Luck (y) missing huge chunks of seasons and they draft a QB as well. Will we get one of those two? Highly doubtful, but it is within the realm of possibility. Is Minkah Fitzpatrick worth the pick? At the cost of trading down for more bounty, and the services of Will Hernandez? This scenario looks more and more like the course I’d take if Fitzpatrick, Nelson, and Chubb are gone.
Needless to say, this is gonna be one of the wildest drafts in a loooong time.
And the draft has come a loooooong way as well . . .
San Francisco 49ers Forever 
Would anyone trade the #9 pick to the Raiders plus next years #1 for Kallil Mack?
Sure it won’t happen but it’s intriguing to think about..
I’d certainly take a hard look at it. Mack is a legit edge rusher and he’s young.
The draft can’t come soon enough, it’s gonna be a long 21/2 fucking weeks. I just read that the Giants say if Darnold is there at 2 they are gonna take him. That just tells me they have no interest in Darnold at all. Between Dorsey and Scottie in Cleveland I honestly think they are gonna get it right. It is going to be fun to see the bidding for the 2 spot. I think Buffalo is gonna try and get it and they have the most ammo. I can see the Jets totally screwing this one up. It wouldn’t surprise me to see both Miami and AZ get in the mix for Mayfield and Jackson. I truly don’t know how any of this will affect us but it should be a fun show.
No shit Winder. The closer it gets the harder it is. LOL
2 ones? No. Our 1 and a 2 this year? Maaaaybe.
I tell ya I’m still extremely baffled why NE basically handed us Jimmy G.
Power struggle or no, They had to have a pretty good idea what Garoppolo brought to the table. And they simply could have paid him enough to get him to stay. Yeah, the money would have been onerous, but they could have back-loaded the deal. No matter how bad Brady wanted to get rid of the competition, the front office should have nixed the trade. Instead, they hastened it. Belichick is on record saying he wanted Garoppolo to usher in the post-Belichick-post-Brady era and ride off into the sunset with their next franchise guy in charge. Instead, they are one hit away from being also-rans.
I guess they really think Brady can play till he’s 45. Then I get it. But the front office is playing with a ticking time bomb if they really think Brady has 5 more seasons left. 2 tops.
Rumors being what they are Chuck, Tom and Robert Kraft apparently put the heat on Bill to take the heat off Tom.
Could be the 2nd coming of the Steve Young Trade for the 9er Legacy?
There’s also the simple reality that paying 2 QBs in today’s Cap Era was simply never going to happen. Even in New England.
Say what you will about the Cap Era in the NFL, it forces a lot of tough decisions on whom to pay and who gets left out.
This is the one area Paraag has earned my respect. The Money Guys can make or, break a successful Franchise.
Case in point for a bad Money Guy, Mike Tannenbaum & Co with the NYJ who now runs the Miami Dolphins FO.
He is reason 1 for my excitement at having the opportunity to deal with them on 4/26.
I’m hopeful of landing a stud like Minkah at 9 but, if he, Nelson, Chubb are off the Board and, Mayfield (or another QB) is coveted by Miami/Buffalo/NE, I’d be open to the highest bidder.
I just have a sense that the fireworks will involve Indy if Denver passes on a QB.
I heard Billacheat say it was obvious they weren’t going to be able to sign Groppo so they dealt him. I also read that they offered him 18 million to be the back up and Groppo turned it down. When I read how much they offered him I knew we had our guy. I don’t see any power struggle here. It’s crazy to offer a back up 18 mil, if he turns it down you have to deal him.
We are, in a sense, similar to Indy in terms of QB ‘need’. With one caveat. Jimmy’s health.
Yeh, Luck has been unlucky but, only Indy knows how healthy he is in relationship to the Contract he’s working under.
If there’s even a hint of long term concern for his shoulder, they could upend the whole shooting match and take his replacement.
There again, the Cap could hog tie them.
The biggest risk with the QB Pick is how much they can break the bank if you don’t get it right.
Especially in the Top of RD1.
The rookie cap keeps indy in the game for a QB. The fact Jimmy G had run through his rookie deal is the decider there.
Yeah guys , NE probably wanted to keep Jimmy G but couldn’t afford to make him the highest paid QB in the league like we did and use him as a backup ! If Tom Brady is your starter what do you do ,trade Brady ? Maybe they should have franchised him for one year than traded Brady for three 1st rd picks or something . A desperate team for a winner like Cleveland or someone like that would have been the way to go. First you could fleece em’ for picks and secondly your picks would all be high in the rounds ! Reload around Jimmy G !
New England’s thinking was since you can’t fit both under the cap at least get something for Garappolo while you still can
Be that as it may, it sure seemed like Kraft and Belichick were at opposite sides of the issue. And I’m very glad Belichick hates the Browns.
And likes the Niners!
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Wow, Tommy Nobis. There’s a blast from the past. Atlanta Falcons.
No kidding. He was still on the Falcons when I really got into football.
I think the ESPN article says it all Chuck. When you’re dealing with massive egos like Brady, Kraft and Belichick you never know what might happen. Kraft has a serious bromance with Brady and was willing to usurp Belichick’s wishes and force him to deal Jimmy in order to keep Brady happy. And he probably does think Brady is good for another 4 years. We’ll see about that.
As far as the Niners getting the offer, pure good luck. Shanny and Belichick hit it off and Belichick likes Jimmy, so he was willing to put him into the best situation he could, which just happened to be in Santa Clara, while also kind of sort of not screwing the Pats (Niners in a different conference). Shanahan is Belichick’s kind of guy, eat, sleep and breathe football and a razor sharp football mind to boot.
This is the football gods smiling on the Niners for the first time in quite a while. I’ll (we’ll) take it.
How’s this for a reach?
In a Draft Class loaded with younger options, including his own Brother.
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Kraft wants to ride Brady until he drops. I have complete sympathy for him. I was furious when The Seifert miscoached the ’90 championship and then gave Steve the reins.
With all those chances and that team Young only won 1. Montana would’ve won at least that; look at what he did in KC. That said…
I disagree about WR being a pressing need. A high jumper RZ guy, that’s it. I like our WR corps.
LB – Nevermind the fact that Foster’s arraignment is on Thurs. and we have NO IDEA if and when and for how long he’ll play again, this is a definite weakness even with him healthy, mentally stable, and unsuspended.
Edge – Landry’s my pick with #9. It’s a gamble. I think Mack’s thing with the Raiders is just a contract tactic, or else I would trade for him in a second.
DB/OG – Yep, but lower rounds.
RB – Anybody that knows me knows that I love scat backs. I loved Sproles in his prime and could not for the life of me why the Niners passed on him 3 times in FA.
Imagine my surprise when I looked up Daddy Shanny’s workhorse Terrell Davis and he was almost the same height and weight as our new Niner, Jerick McKinnon.
But still I DO NOT trust Joe Williams. Perhaps for depth and the occasional carry, not for sharing the spotlight with McKinnon.
I’m rooting for McCaffery making the team as the #5 WR. Call it a smart white guy prejudice.
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Oh hey guys! Chuck, I think it’s being logged into WP, which I always was. Makes it impossible to view. Being logged out, I finally, suddenly realized that I could see everything – at least until the next curve to strike out on.
Hope everybody’s doing well!
Testing, testing, previous post eaten by WP monster?
Fished it out of the drain, RTF. Welcome back.
If you recall RTF, Joe missed the 2 years prior to being traded. The O line wasn’t all that stout, and Joe would have been beaten into retirement earlier than he was in KC.
Hey RT !
Good to see you RT. 49er football is fun again, even the off-season has be a lot of fun.
Congrats to Chuck for raising some hell over on “the other” blog. That Skeebs is a real “sourpuss” when it comes to the Niners. It’s amusing when the insults start flying.
Oh Nippy. You should post there as well. It is fun to mess with NoCheer and Skeebs. They would bitch about the taxes if they won a million dollars.
That’s the perfect name for that blog……”NO CHEER.” When the Niners start winning this coming season some of those guys will have to see a “Shrink” to deal with the stress of winning!
LOL!
There are times when I can’t see why Skeebs feels the way he does but I think he is just more of a pessimist but that doesn’t mean he’s not a fan he just sees things differently. I think the whole flag thing got to nofear and I guess he can’t shake it.. I know that just about every year I am way more optimistic than I should be. Except for this year of course because what’s not to be optimistic about.Lol
Yeah that whole blog is unrelenting in their pessimism and it’s humorous the way they post.
The thing about football is. and Flying V was suicidally against it, but parity reigns in the NFL. A team can make a few small tweaks and be instantly relevant. It was true in the 60s, the 70s, the 80s, the 90s, the aughts, and it is true now.
But, and this is a big but, improving a team is much more than a few tweaks depending on where they were. The Browns have been pretty much dogshit since Carmen Policy and Dwight Clark trtied their hand at running the show. The Jets, Bills, Raiders, and Redskins have been varying shades of turd for the good part of the last decade. The 49ers were a laughingstock no more than 15 months ago as the front office had kept Trent Baalke, fired St Jim Harbaugh, hired and fired Jimmy Bag-o-donuts, replaced him with lame-Duck Chip Kelly and then fired his ass. Turning around a franchise is not an easy task. There are a shitload of interconnecting variables that need to happoen, and I wouldn’t have believed our turnaround happening this quickly short of resurrecting Bill and cloning Joe.
Shanahan and Lynch in 14 months completely turned over the roster, found a franchise QB, hit a solid draft, and instilled a winning culture inside the building, and outwardly to the league in general. We are at least in the conversation of being a destination for free agents, and this offseason has already seen improvements across the O line, running back, and the defensive backfield. A good amount of the young players got meaningful playing time and showed their stuff.
Next is the draft. As we stand now I think we have a shot at the wildcard. A good draft improves our chances even more. A great draft? Who knows? In other words, what is there to be so down about?
Yeah, it is pretty amazing how the team has transformed since Lynch and KS took over.
I guess I should say Peter’s and Mayhew and the whole scouting team also.
I stopped paying attention to Skeeb’s blog when it became dominated by the troll from St. Petersburg. Straight from Pravda to Skeebs’.
It’s a hoot if one takes the “other” blog for what it is………entertainment from the pessimists. Everyday is a rainy day with very dark clouds.
Win 6? Is that with or without Jimmy G.? With him we’re already a threat to win 11 and win one in the playoffs. Without him? Maybe 4, though we have a weak ass home schedule.
Sorry Nip – that was supposed to go at the end, not in response to your post.
It isn’t entertainment, it’s a drag . . .
That was a great blog. Skeebs is a great writer when he wants to be. He doesn’t seem to care much anymore.
Harbaugh went on a power struggle and also wanted 10 mil. When he didn’t get his money he orchestrated a scorched earth policy to get out. That other blog turned into the sacred Harbaugh kneelers. They blamed Jed for anything possible. They turned into the cancer blog and I didn’t want any on me so I left.
I haven’t read anything from there for months. It is a shame because Skeebers had a great blog for a while. As good as any around. Then the attitude started to suck and they say your altitude is your attitude and that blog is proof. Bad attitudes equal a bad blog. I can’t imagine them being able to handle Jed having a winning team without Harbaugh.
I gave notice that I would not be back until things changed. Nothing has changed. I’m not sure I would even want to go back if it did change.
Anyway, good luck to them. No hard feelings on my side of the view.
I like posting on Skeebs blog, it’s tradition. If you think back to the Insider days there were a lot of different attitudes there also.and a way lot more bullshit flying around.
Berger- Just think if Jed’s niners win a SB. I am laughing just thinking about it.
The new regime needs to win 6 for it to make an impact. In their heads. Yeah, Skeebs is a decent writer but Jesus, it was very hard to wade through the bullshit he let go on there.
Whatever. I popped in to see what was going on there and it’s the same old same old.
Better be thinking Tremaine Edmunds are Rogan Smith in the draft..
Cause Ruben Foster just got charged for demostice violence …
Just on KNBR the “sports leader” …….Foster is being charged with a felony by the DA. If true he’s gone for good from the roster.
new thread is up.