The Youth Movement

A topic on the last thread was the amount of turnover in a very short period from the Trent Baalke/Chip Kelly regime to the current one. Amazingly, from the day Baalke was canned, there are only 11 players remaining on the roster. That’s a hell of a lot of turnover in 14 months and change. To go along with that, even the players we have gotten so far in free agency, Richberg, McKinnon, and the in-house guys Garoppolo, Marsh, Coyle, and Gilliam, are all on the short side of 30. Only Kilgore and Sherman (soon to be 30) are 30+.

And, we have 9 picks in the draft to look forward to. What I really dig about this is the team is now very young. McKinnon is a speedster, as are Williams and Brieda. We could be faster at wideout, but I’m sure we address this in the remaining free agency period as this rolls along. All the injuries to the DBs last year got us the ability to see the young corners and safeties in action. Ahkello Witherspoon emerged as a solid CB and he will only get better. K’Waun Williams and Greg Mabin did solid jobs as well when guys were breaking their arms. At safety, Adrian Colbert shone as a hard-hitting free safety.

With Tartt, Sherman, the emergent Witherspoon, and Jimmie Ward we have a great group of defensive backs in the stable now. With young, proven backups.

Now about that pass rush . . .

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58 Responses to The Youth Movement

  1. unca_chuck says:

    The more I look at our free agency so far, we are likely to go DL yet again. Or OLB. Then WR.

    • Winder says:

      Last year we waited for awhile before we picked up our FA’s. I think that is where you find some good economical players. Sign em up and see how they play.
      Chuck- I think the draft is just like it was in many ways, we will have to see where the QB’s fall and unless we have a shot at Nelson I think we probably move back. We can get some good LB’s and WR’s.

      • Winder says:

        And, it’s also a real good RB draft this year. It wouldn’t surprise if we took of those either, Depending on the rest of FA we just might have a chance to take the BPA’s through most of the draft.

      • Irish Kevin says:

        Don’t really need a high priced RB, teams are going with rotating running backs. Last time a RB won MVP was 10 years ago. Just say no to drafting a RB in the 1st round

  2. unca_chuck says:

    Huh. Crabs got cut. Not that i want him.

  3. Lurker John says:

    Kilgore to the Fish. Outstanding.

  4. Lurker John says:

    A couple of 7th round picks are also involved. Makes you wonder why they resigned him first, but maybe the deal just came together quickly. Richberg may be the center.

  5. Winder says:

    I keep forgetting that we have McCaffrey as a WR. He’s 6’2″ 200 pounds. If he’s anything like his day then he’s a keeper.

  6. Winder says:

    49ers signed DE Jerry Attaochu, formerly of the Chargers, to a one-year contract.

    A promising pass-rush prospect coming out of Georgia Tech in 2014, Attaochu’s early NFL career was derailed by injuries. He flashed outside-edge explosiveness when healthy and was the 50th overall pick in the draft. Attaochu is a smart investment by the Niners on this one-year, prove-it deal.

  7. unca_chuck says:

    Loved McCaffery when he was here. Tough and reliable.

    I wondered why we signed Kilgore. He had a weird year last year, but I attributed it to the shitty guard play next to him. Out with the Baalke boys. I think they are going to make a play for Nelson and put Richie Richberg at center.

    I liked Attouchu in SD. I wonder when Armstead gets the axe. He’ll be the next Baalke boy to hit the bricks.

  8. alleykat69 says:

    Aaron Lynch signs with the Bears 🐻
    Maybe Fangio can light a fire under his ass.Sure was a major underachiever here, that Shanahan weekly kept inactive for a reason,weight issues, head case,basically just dead weight leftovers from Baalke days..

  9. NJ49er says:

    Kilgore signing was insurance if nothing else.
    Once Richburg was done, Kilgore was expendable. Richburg is now our Center.

    Between potentially having a shot at Quenton and/or Hernandez, Shanny has to be doing a happy dance.
    I think OL might have moved up a notch with Attaochu signing?
    OG/OT?
    Edmunds is still a nice option to me.

  10. NJ49er says:

    Crabs displaced by Jordy… Ouch.
    All about the money and, I don’t think Chucky thought much of Crabs?

    Maybe Dallas will give him a deal to get out from under Dez’ demands?

  11. rob says:

    Kilgore was going to get a shot at G but requested the trade and it was granted . G now open for an upgrade. Funny thought but Pouncey was a G in college . Wonder if the 4 time pro-bowler might be open to a move to G. ?

  12. rob says:

    I agree with Winder at 1:10 and 1:13 !

  13. rob says:

    this guy sounds pretty good .

    STRENGTHS Good burst off the snap. Heats up the edge and runs the arc. Quick inside move. Disruptive ability. Motor runs hot — keeps coming after the quarterback and chases hard from the back side. Moves well laterally and can zone drop. Has experience in even and odd fronts, having played defensive end and stand-up linebacker. Power-leverage potential. Mature and intelligent. Cares about the game and prepares like a pro. Arrow pointing up (will be a 21-year-old rookie). Ran extremely well and registered a 37 1/2-inch vertical jump at his pro day.
    WEAKNESSES Needs to get stronger (opted not to bench at pro-day workout). Gets knocked around at the point of attack. Controlled by larger blockers when they get their hands on him. Still developing pop and violence in his hands. Still learning to incorporate power into his rush (more effortful than powerful). Needs to cultivate his pass-rush arsenal. Marginal 20-yard shuttle time (4.68 seconds), indicating tight hips.
    DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 2-3
    BOTTOM LINE Attaochu is a young, heady, disruptive, relentless edge rusher who profiles as a 3-4 right outside linebacker. Interviewed well and has the look of a trustworthy, long-term starter given his pass-rush ability, motor and makeup. Needs to get stronger, but impressive display of speed, athletic ability and explosion will enhance draft standing.

    • rob says:

      Attouchu played behind Joey Bosa last year and battled a couple injuries in 2016 but had a nice second season as a pro in 2015. Started the final 12 gqames and finished with 55 tackles and 6 sacks . Good replacement for lynch and/or Tank IMO

      • Winder says:

        rob- the guy sounds like he has potential. I don’t think he’s a lock to make the team though. If nothing else we have some extra competition and I am sure we aren’t done with that position by any means.

  14. alleykat69 says:

    Rob/Winder,
    I like this signing of Jerry Attochu as well.
    No risk, prove yourself, which he will, good sign!
    Guess we’re going to have to loosen his tight hips with WD-40 other then that it’s all good!
    Always has cracked me up at the combines when they say a player has fluid hips are not..

    • NJ49er says:

      Differentiates between 3-4 coverage LBs and 4-3 Edge guys to me Alleykat?
      Combines are quite boring to most but, very informative to the evaluation process.
      You definitely can see a natural athlete when you put them thru drills.

  15. NJ49er says:

    Pass rusher?
    Eagles just released Vinny Curry.
    Call his Agent John…
    See what he wants.

  16. Robert De Luca says:

    Lynch out Attaochu in
    Tank out Curry in ?

    Not a bad idea. Fill out the roster and maybe even upgrade a little bit

    • Winder says:

      Lynch was a mystery to me it looked like he had all this talent but nothing was ever consistent with him. Curry sounds interesting.

      • Winder says:

        Both Tank and Armstead have to show something this year. They were both high draft picks but it’s been some time now and that doesn’t matter much anymore.

  17. unca_chuck says:

    Wow, Just saw that. The jets are in desperation mode for a QB. Stupid move though. They can get a good enough QB with the 6th pick.

    • NJ49er says:

      Seems to be a position battle with their NY Division rivals in Buffalo Chuck.
      Bills climbed into contention the other day and, obviously put some heat on the NYJ to counter.
      All the QB posturing likely knocks other guys down the Board too.
      Good for us certainly.
      Gonna be a QB bonanza in the Top 10 as things heat up.

  18. Winder says:

    This whole off-season has been way more active than usual. The draft is gonna be all about Cleveland and the 3 NY teams and who wants to squeeze that rock until it’s dry. I wonder if the Giants want someone so bad that they stay at 2. I kinda doubt it, We are still sitting very pretty at 9 and I have a feeling it’s gonna be a real fun draft. Just like last year. I just hope Foster will realize just what he’s throwing away by being an idiot and stop the bullshit. The kid does have talent.

    • Lurker John says:

      Yeah, you have to question a guy’s gray matter when he doesn’t seem to be able to avoid throwing away a lucrative and high profile career. Talk about self destructive. I’ve not heard anything yet about charges being filed, so it’s still wait and see mode. After Aldon Smith, I’ve had my fill of bozos like this for the rest of my life.

      As bad as the charges are, the Niners need this guy in there. If he stays in the league, he’s going to be a star. Big if at this point.

  19. rob says:

    The fukkin Jest ! They weredoing pretty well in FA so Guess they had to find some way to fukk it up ! Hey as bad as it can get for us just take solace in the fact you’re not a Jets or Browns fan lol

  20. rob says:

    I guess being pathetic has it’s upside . Ever imagine having pick 1 AND 4 ??? WTF

  21. rob says:

    Hey anybody know any possible guards who are rumored to be upcoming cap casualties ? Kilgore threw us a curveball IMO when he asked for a trade . Now we have another hole to fill. Older vets are just as good as rookies when it comes to O-linemen IMO. A 32 year old Sitton is just as good or better than having a raw draft pick in there, and at least you know what you’re getting ! I really want to be set and have any gaping holes filled by draft time ! Than we can go BPA and/or trade down !

    • rob says:

      Any thoughts

      • Winder says:

        At this point I would rather draft some good prospects and build a line that will last some years. Sitton is gone and if we really wanted him we would have probably got him. It takes time to build continuity with an OL and plug and play players don’t always work. In the case of Kilgore and Weston I think we got younger and better.

  22. unca_chuck says:

    Fuck Kilgore. Well at least he wanted out early instead of Anthony Davis who waited until after the draft to decide to retire and then unretire and then reunretire.

    Besides Kilgore was pretty bad last year so it ain’t no big loss. Yes we need depth at guard. Hopefully that won’t be too hard to figure. Still think it’s pass rusher or by some small miracle, Nelson. Yeah it’s a high pick for a guard but we need a strong line.

  23. unca_chuck says:

    And we drafted Iupati at 12 if i recall.

  24. Lurker John says:

    Kilgore being gone is a good thing to me. If you think he was going to be a solution at guard, I have to disagree. The draft will likely yield a guard or two.

  25. Lurker John says:

    Iapati was a beast in the run game, not so much in the pass game. A real road grader.

  26. NJ49er says:

    From what I’ve seen, Kilgore didn’t ask for the Trade, he was told that they would consider a good landing spot for him once Richburg was in the fold.

    Read a piece last night where he appreciated the way Lynch/Shanny approached him about the situation.
    I think they extended him as a precaution to losing him before they had a replacement?
    Either way, Kilgore indicated that he’s not bitter in any way.
    Also saved himself some major tax implications as FL has no State Income Tax.

    Say what you will, about Lynch’s experience as a GM but, he’s extremely aware of what it means to be a player in this League.
    He’s not lost in the business side of the process, to the point where he’s become heartless apparently.

  27. unca_chuck says:

    Night and day from the previous clowns.

    • NJ49er says:

      All I’ve ever sought was Football guys running Football Ops Chuck.
      We may have finally realized the Dream 😀

  28. Berger says:

    Will Hernandez would be OK with me. We could even trade back a few spots and still get him.

    • NJ49er says:

      Agreed Berger 😀
      If we pass or miss Nelson and, opt not to select Edmunds/Fitzpatrick or Ward, I’d be fine sliding down for an extra Pick and taking Hernandez.
      Kid moved well in Mobile and, blew up the Bench Press in Indy with 37 reps.
      Gotta have those Reps going for you as an OG.
      His wheels looked pretty good to me.
      Might even have an edge on mobility over Nelson too?

  29. NJ49er says:

    And the NYJ can’t catch a break…..

    https://tinyurl.com/ycwrrrn3

  30. unca_chuck says:

    Yeah, that move looked a lot like the Bears giving up the farm to gain one spot in the draft last year. A sopt that didn’t make a damn bit of difference because we were going to get Salomon Thomas anyway.

    Dumb.

    Hernandez looks like a solid backup plan that we could trade down and still get in the late 1st.

  31. unca_chuck says:

    New thread is up . . .

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