Shanahan It Is – So, Who’s Our DC? QB?

Kyle Shanahan is officially the 49ers head coach. The glory of getting a Super Bowl OC is tainted, for now, by the epic collapse of the Atlanta Falcons in the game, due in no small part to a baffling insistence on going away from the run game that helped build the 28-3 lead in the first place. Still and all, the consensus is that he had a solid game plan.

That being siad, with the hires of John Lynch and Adam Peters, at least we now have a coach, GM, and EVP who are:

a) Outsiders
b) Football guys
c) Smart
d) Not likely to brook ANY  interference from the suits

Granted, this alone means nothing. But I feel a hell of a lot better with these guys in charge rather than:

a) Chip Kelly
b) Trent Baalke
c) Paraag Marathe

Shanahan now will more than likely start building his coaching staff. Since Kyle is running the offense, his main task is getting a DC. The candidates are Pats LB coach Brian Flores and ex-Jags LB coach Robert Saleh. Flores is obviously the prize, as he[s coming off the defense that shut down a team that threw up 28 points in the 1st half, and then pitched a shutout in the 2nd. He’s highly respected, and is likely on the fast track to a HC job, but a couple years here would be good for us.

As far as QBs go, here’s what we are looking at, FA wise:

a) Kirk Cousins, QB, Redskins. Age: 29 – Not going anywhere
b) Brian Hoyer, QB, Bears. Age: 31 – Some good games, some bad. Could land here
c) Matt Schaub – QB, Falcons. Age: 35 – Connection to Shanahan. Very possible
d) Mike Glennon, QB, Buccaneers. Age: 27 – Young and inconsistent. Cheap tho
e) Ryan Fitzpatrick, QB, Jets. Age: 34 – Fuck to the no
f) Geno Smith, QB, Jets. Age: 26 – Double fuck to the no
g) Nick Foles, QB, Chiefs. Age: 28 – Meh. Still struggling to find consistency
h) Matt Barkley, QB, Bears. Age: 26 – Strictly backup material
i) Ryan Mallett, QB, Ravens. Age: 29 – Ditto

The Case Keenums and Johnny Manziels and and Pat McGroins round out the list. Shit, Blaine Gabbert, Christian Ponder, and Shaun Hill are on the list. Pionder could stay as a 3rd stringer if for no other reason than he looked OK in last year’s preseason.

But as far as I can  tell, I’d be looking at Hoyer, Schaub, and Glennon. In that order.

 

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65 Responses to Shanahan It Is – So, Who’s Our DC? QB?

  1. NJ49ER's avatar NJ49er says:

    And, with respect to the Draft, personnel is one concern, Coaching them into a cohesive unit involves patience and good teachers.
    Jed simply needs to step out of view and let that dynamic develop.
    If we’re 2-14 again, so be it. This won’t happen in a year or 2.
    He has to prove to other qualified future applicants, that he isn’t going to pull the rug out from under them on a yearly basis.
    This is why many of the desired Coaching targets withdrew from the process.

  2. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck says:

    Well, they took shitty guys, NJ. Jimmy T was an internal hire that didn’t have a chance in hell.
    Kelly had a team with little talent and Baalke not giving him anything to work with.
    Kelly wasn’t any good anyway and he was coming off a disaster in Philly.

    The biggest problem though is the talent drain since 2012. Baalke screwed the pooch through through 5 drafts and 6 free agent periods.

    Lynch and Shanahan are outsiders with very solid reps. They aren’t getting the one-and-done. Even Jed knows this.

    Did you WANT McDaniels? Shanahan was one of the two best guys available in these last couple years. Gase being the other but the rest are retreads or unproven.Doug Marrone? Swan McDermott? Vance Joseph? None of these guys were on my radar. Sean McVay was only for sentimental reasons.

    • NJ49ER's avatar NJ49er says:

      I was OK with the Caserio/McDaniels tandem Chuck.
      Picking guys from the Pat’s Tree wasn’t a bad plan IMO.
      Lynch is a quality hire from a ‘football guy’ perspective but, as we know, he’s going to need a LOT of help in terms of player evals and Draft maneuvering as it relates to slotting them.
      I’ll take my lumps with Shanny of course, he’s equally green in terms of HC experience.
      McDaniels did at least learn some things in his short tenure at the HC level.
      It’s going to be rough going in the cesspool in SF for sure.
      As stated before, Jed needs to be invisible for at least 3yrs IMO.
      I’ve got my concerns with the ‘patience’ factors involving Jed but, I’ll make the same assumption, that he MAY have come to the realization that he hasn’t helped this situation in recent years.
      Leave the football Ops to the football guys. Please.

      • NJ49ER's avatar NJ49er says:

        Don’t like the proposed ‘Co-DCo’ arrangement either but, I’ve got no voice in that process.
        Flores would have been a more desirable target, again, from the Pat’s Tree.
        Haven’t seen anything to suggest whether he bailed thus far either.

      • NJ49ER's avatar NJ49er says:

        His (Flores) resumé included more positional depth and, involved some Scouting experience as well.
        See where this goes in the coming weeks.

  3. NJ49ER's avatar NJ49er says:

    Hard to dissect the QB dialogue Shanny speaks to in this piece but, it would almost suggest, that Deshaun Watson has the ‘throwing and cool’ factors nailed, as prerequisites.
    Kizer was a calm customer too, from the little I’ve seen of him.
    Whether he can speed up the mental aspect of his game is the question.
    No hurry for me as to when the future QB will be ready to handle it either.
    Just be patient and teach him well.
    We can live with Schaub, or another option, for a couple of years in the interim.

    http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/lynch-shanahan-looking-every-scenario-find-next-49ers-qb

    • NJ49ER's avatar NJ49er says:

      Watson is almost a carbon copy of Kaep in terms of what they did in College.
      Little, to no, Pocket experience was ever on display.
      Kizer at ND probably involved more Pro-style characteristics?
      Shanny’s Offense is very much a Pocket game over an Option game.
      No matter what, I’m just hoping the QB Pick doesn’t happen with Pick 2.

    • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck says:

      Who runs a pro set in college anymore? Western Michigan!

      Draft Zach Terrell in the 5th round. Instead of a fucking punter.

      • NJ49ER's avatar NJ49er says:

        Might find Terrell later than RD5 Chuck 😀
        PJ Fleck got a lot of production out of WMUs program.
        Give me Corey Davis over Mike Williams too.

        Then get Terrell ‘Coached up’ and reunite them later.
        I’m good with that scenario.

  4. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck says:

    NJ, if the NFL has taught me anything it is that parity rules.

    FlyingV, for all his nonsensical bullshit was right about parity. Pete Rozelle pushed it (and profit sharing) above all else.

    ANY team can turn themselves around in a hurry. Dallas? 4-12 last year. Playoffs this year. How? They had a solid O and D line and drafted well. WE have some pieces. We need a solid draft and we have a tone of FA money.

    Playoffs? Sure. AZ id falling faster than a rock in the ocean. Seattle is fair to middling. The Rams? Shit show. Goff looks lost. He’s young but he’s not looking very good right now.

  5. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck says:

    If Seattle stumbles, 9-7 could win this division. One and done more than likely, but I think we had more talent than we showed. Especially on defense. YEs, it’s about coaching. SOmething we’ve sorely lacked since Fangio left.

  6. NJ49ER's avatar NJ49er says:

    Parity is accomplished with scheduling and Cap Mgt as well Chuck.
    Football has always been a ‘trenches’ game for me. Good Lines control things.
    Shanny will need a very ‘heady’ QB to make his system run. It’s not something a Rookie will grasp for at least a 2-3yr period.
    Matt Ryan didn’t comprehend it well last year and, he’s been in the game awhile himself.

    Playing solid Defense and running the ball will cover those warts for a bit, which is what Seattle has done and, Harbaugh did for Kaep for awhile as well.
    This Draft Class is much deeper on D too.
    It seems Lynch knows this already from things I’ve picked up thus far.
    He realizes the challenges ahead for a QB in this Offense.
    Hoping he makes some hay on D this year, which is why the DCo hire will be important to me.

  7. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck says:

    2018 is going to have a lot more QBs to pick from. But this team needs skill players right now. WRs, QBs, TEs, We’ve drafted for defense for too long.

  8. NJ49ER's avatar NJ49er says:

    The piece I linked above suggested Mike LaFluer was ‘ticketed’ to SF.
    Seems his ticket took him to LA.
    Until it’s done, we’ll just have to sift through all the rhetoric that gets to our eyes for now.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000784668/article/rams-name-matt-lafleur-offensive-coordinator

  9. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck says:

    Plenty of coaches have been their own OCa. It isn’t rhat rare. Holmgren and shanny Sr did it.

  10. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck says:

    Holmgren did. I think he was GM as well.

  11. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck says:

    Good news!! Carson Palmer is coming back as QB for Arizona!

    • Winder's avatar Winder says:

      That is good news. For now they are still better than us, but probably not for long. After last season I never thought I would be this jazzed about the team so soon. But for some reason I just know that Lynch is the right guy for the job.

  12. Nipper's avatar Nipper says:

    I hope these guys are better than last seasons guys……..and Jed is hoping too. If they succeed than Jed can go back and to fighting with his neighbors over his cabana.

  13. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck says:

    Right, Winder. Millen was a great football player and a motivator but he was way over his head as a GM. I think Lynch is a lot closer to Elway than Millen. Having Peters around is a big help as well.

  14. Nipper's avatar Nipper says:

    No welcome mat for Oakley at MSG…banned for life apparently …….OUCH!

  15. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck says:

    New thread is up. I’ll move that like over . . .

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