What Quarterback Controversy?

Well, we are getting closer to a real game I suppose. Maybe the Rams mailed it in and were shocked by our intensity. Maybe we continue our pattern of playing well at home and like high schoolers on the road. Maybe it was sunspots. Who knows?

The point being, we are flying across the country to play the defending NFC champs. Across 3 time zones. For the early game, no less. But that is how it goes in today’s NFL. You are perceived as a lower-echelon team, you get fucked right in the schedule.

Anyhow, the rumor mill has been turned on by Jed and Co once again regarding our current backup, and once and (possibly) future starting quarterback, Colin Kaepernick. The rub now is that the kneeling during the National anthem is causing a rift among the teammates. Despite the fact that Daniel Kilgore and Torrey Smith have stated that they don’t have a problem with his protest. Both were leery at first, but get where he is coming from after players-only meeting on Aug 29th to address just that.

Or you can believe Lowell Cohn’s discharge, Grant Cohn, and his second-hand accounting of a passing comment by an unnamed lineman in the locker room when passing by the knot of unchickenshit reporters gathered around CK after last week’s game. You know, the usual innuendo and obfuscation that this front office is so good at fomenting and promoting. Much like Trent Dilfer’s comments regarding CK. Funny Dilfer made his comments before the game, and  he’s surprised at the knot of reporters looking for a comment after the game about what he himself started. Kind of a self-perpetuating myth there, Trent. Dilfer of course said that a backup quarterback has no right to express his opinion. He should just sit in the back of the bus and be quiet, like a good boy. That’s one way to take it, anyway. You can take it also to mean that Kaepernick is disputing the team dynamic. Certainly this possibility exists, but this is happening at a lot of games now, and isn’t just the 49ers dealing with it. Which means SOMETHING.

Back to Dilfer, though, there are reports now that Trent Baalke wants to get rid of Kaepernick. And also that Baalke and Dilfer are good friends. In other words, Baalke uses Dilfer as his mouthpiece to float negative things about Kaepernick to get the word out. Of course neither guy is in the locker room on any regular basis, but the team is obviously once again floating innuendo and bullshit through outside sources. The hope is that Chip Kelly, who is apparently firmly on CK’s side, gets to keep CK on the team. Beyond the fact it would be a bad look to cut the backup who also happens to be generating social discourse, it would also leave us very thin at QB. Unless Mark Snachez floats your boat.

Point being, this should be a football decision, not some kind of witch hunt from the front office. Again. Baalke keeps winning these behind-the-scenes battles. Just ask Jim Harbaugh and Paraage Marathe. And Crabs, and any number of players and staff.

 

 

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82 Responses to What Quarterback Controversy?

  1. unca_chuck says:

    Another take on the human centipede that is Trents Baalke and Dilfer

    http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/dilfer-kaepernick-war-words-not-good-look-trent-baalke

    From the miserable scribulist or whatever the fuck he’s called.

  2. rtfirefly says:

    Great start to the Bills-Jets game. Jets hold the ball for 8 1/2 minutes, drive all the way down the field deep inside the 10 and stall for a FG. Bills go -1 yd,, -2 yds, 83 for a TD (they had 160 yds. offense all last game). Had the ball less than minute. Football is so weird and Revis is toast.

  3. Nipper says:

    Dilfer is a big mouth ass. A lousy player lucky to be on a Super Bowl winner.

  4. rtfirefly says:

    I’ve got to admit a hard, honest truth. The First Step is admitting you have a problem. I love My Man Rex. He gives the best, funniest pressers in the league. But… he is Jeff Fisher. Now how Rex can be in two places at once on any given Sunday is anybody’s guess. His makeup people need awards of some kind. But they are the same guy.

  5. 12th man says:

    After laying an egg against the Niners, the Rams give HC Jeff Fisher a 3 year contract extension.

  6. Winder says:

    I hope they go back to their old blue and yellow uniforms because that dark blue and gold just doesn’t look right. I guess Goff still isn’t ready to be thrown to the lions. I think when he finally arrives they should have a pretty good air attack.

  7. unca_chuck says:

    Serously? Fisher gets an extension? I thought Jed was daft. They are of the same mind of getting a stadium and not giving a fuck.

    No, the Rams will be nothing until they go back to the navy and white unis. The Deacon Jones Merln Olson unis. I hated the Rams but those unis were the best unis until they changed. Then the chargers powder blue unis passéd them.

  8. unca_chuck says:

    Goff may never be ready for prime time. I was high on him but time will tell. He could be Blaine Gabbert

  9. unca_chuck says:

    Fisher will end up as the losingest coach in NFL history by the end of this season.

    With about 250 less games coached then as Shula and co.

  10. Winder says:

    Maybe chuck but I don’t think Gabby threw the ball like Goff. Goff is a pure passer. Whether he can do it in the NFL is another story.

    • Nipper says:

      Did you know the Panthers have a Spanish language broadcast? They’re so popular they have lots of fans even in Texas!

      • Nipper says:

        I learned that on KNBR’s second station today. They interviewed their broadcaster. The man has some pipes!

  11. NJ49er says:

    Let’s recall GRo is OC in Buffalo.
    Red Zone troubles?
    Hmmm..
    Fisher a USC Alum?
    Hmmm..
    Some things just go beyond reason I guess?

  12. unca_chuck says:

    Well, let’s give Chip a chance.

  13. unca_chuck says:

    I figured Fisher to get fired and coach USC at some point.

  14. Berger says:

    I was boycotting this thread because Unca’s support for the player calling cops murderers and Chuck going communist on our anthem and flag is making me barf. But this news is just too precious.

    Buffalo just fired Greg Roman. The cancer blog’s favorite OC of all time. The cancer blog will be in mourning.

    Back to the boycott.

  15. unca_chuck says:

    Adios,. You little puppy. Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. Skeebs has a warm spot in the playpen for you. Good to see you can’t discuss things like an adult. Boo boo. That would be giving you too much credit I suppose.

  16. unca_chuck says:

    Oh Phil. I know you guys just can’t wait to see what I post. It gives you a position to be contrarian on. All I need to hear now is that you refuse to be disappointed by last week’s victory.

  17. unca_chuck says:

    Greggie is out??? Wonder what Rex thought about Rob’s defense?

  18. Winder says:

    Political views like religious views are not so absolute. I don’t like people that kill cops but I don’t like cops that kill innocent people either. What I don’t like is our country being blamed for isolated city and state problems. The flag has nothing to do with crooked cops or with the people that kill cops in retaliation. Grandstanding in the way that Kap’s doing does absolutely no good. What it will do is incite people who will do more damage and hurt many more innocent people. And I think it’s bad for our team.

    • unca_chuck says:

      The flag has nothing to do with anything. the flag is supposed to represent the freedoms allowed by our country. Like the freedom to protest the very idea of what is or isn’t representing. Unlike the rebel flag and what that represents. Jackie Robinson spoke up against anthem, as did John Carlos and Tommie Smith. Jesse Owens as well. They weren’t praised for their stances, and neither is CK.

      Adding ‘under God’ to the pledge of alliegance, and to our money was a knee-jerk reaction to the ‘Godless Communists’ running around the country in the 50s. Did it change anything? No. Pablum to make the masses feel better about themselves. Like extreme vetting, it is merely a bullshit phrase to try to make things appear different than they are.

      I don’t particularly agree with what Kappy is doing, but I wholeheartedly agree with him having the right to do it. And I really don’t think that is is tearing up the locker room.

      The thing is, Jed, CK, and Eric Reid donated collectively $3 million to inner city charities. So whatever he is doing is doing some good. Which I guess is a sidebar plus. If it is tearing the team apart, then they are a bunch of 12 year olds. Some people can discuss things rationally, and some people can’t. See below for the playpen version.

      • Winder says:

        chuck I don’t agree with the ‘under God’ either, politics and religion should be separate if we plan to keep our freedoms. Most of the people you mentioned did their protests in a completely different time. Some long before the civil right act of 1964. As far as Kap’s protest goes it has everything to do with the flag the National Anthem and the pledge of allegiance are directly related to our flag. The civil rights laws are in place, they are fair and just, getting everyone to abide by them is another story all together.

      • Winder says:

        Do you think it was coincidence that Kapy looked just like Angela Davis only with a mustache and goat.

      • unca_chuck says:

        You got to grow it out before you can braid it.

  19. Berger says:

    Unca- You bet I’m out but that wasn’t the door that hit me in the ass, it was your face. When I stood up your nose got wedged between my butt cheeks. I farted to try and jettison your face but all that did was to get you humming the old Campbells Soup song, mmm good. So I bent over to dislodge your nose and ran across the street where I saw a flag pole with a US flag flying on it. I figured I would be safe there because when you see it you would sit or kneel. It isn’t safe around you because when you do move you are busy trying to give everybody who will listen a Colinoscopy.

  20. unca_chuck says:

    Like I said, playpen material. Jesus.

  21. rtfirefly says:

    Reno, do you remember that NF and Spitty are over at Skeebs’? I suppose you can post on 49erwebzone. It’s mostly a fan site which doesn’t tolerate anything or anybody critical of the Niners, but they get some pretty good flame wars going.

  22. Winder says:

    See ya berger wish you were not going because you had some good insight on the Niners.

  23. Nipper says:

    “Can’t we all just get along?”

  24. unca_chuck says:

    Berger apparently can’t take different points of view. Much like the playpen. Why don’t you crawl back there with your tail between your legs, pup? They’ll welcome you with open arms, a la Ray Rice. If you can’t take the fact that America was founded on the exact things that Kappy is doing, then you don’t know what freedom is. Freedom to conform to someone else’s idea of the way to act isn’t freedom. It’s control.

    Where’s the anger and vitriol for Bruce Miller? Are people boycotting the NFL for the myriad spousal abusers and steroid clowns? Naah. Well, maybe some. Beating your girlfriend is the American way. Drinking and taking boner pills as well. So are scantily clad cheerleaders. But God forbid Janet Jackson exposes herself. Throw in the NFL’s active policies in burying concussion evidence and shafting the older players dying in the streets, you have a lot of reasons to not like the NFL. If you get bent over a guy not standing for the national anthem, then you are a 10 year old child.

  25. unca_chuck says:

    And by the way, Niners win 62-0.

    Hah!

  26. unca_chuck says:

    And in more exciting news, Skeebs doesn’t want the team to improve. He wants it to suck so he can carry on with his diatribe over poor Alex Smith.

    • rtfirefly says:

      Yeah, Skeebs has gone downhill. Racist crap from Bakken, politics from Bakken after Skeebs claimed he stopped it and warned me, calling me a Communist – those are fine.

      I get banned apparently (most posts don’t appear and I’m not going to go back and read to find out).

      Wanting to use force to shut Kappy up is de rigeur over there. But then the Reichwingers pull a Trump and claim it’s LIBRALLS who wish to suppress free speech.

  27. Nipper says:

    I hope the Niners are up to playing the Panthers. You know give a good account of themselves. As for Kap’s knee and just don’t give a damn.

  28. rtfirefly says:

    Have any of you read “Gulag Archipelago” by Solzhenitsyn? There’s a long story of a Communist Party official speech in a large auditorium. At the conclusion of the speech, the Party stooges in the audience stand up and applaud and keep applauding. Knowing it would be dangerous not to do so, the remainder of the audience does the same.

    Solzhenitsyn gives a grim account of must have been going on in the people’s minds as the applause continued, three minutes, four minutes… The first person to stop applauding and try to leave would be hauled away, never to be seen again. Everyone knew that. Five minutes, ten minutes, finally someone stopped applauding. He was hauled away. Then it was safe for the rest to go home.

    That was the USSR. That’s why I defend Kappy’s action, whether I agree with it or not. Firing him for kneeling during the National Anthem, really? A lesser degree of the USSR, but severe punishment nonetheless.

    I was going to drop this before Reno’s rant today. Now I’ll drop it again; I want to talk football.

  29. Winder says:

    Alright I’m going 13-10 Niners. But I still say Kap looked like Angela Davis with a mustache and goat. And as Tower of power used to say “Tower to the People” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNWYHSbaFBs

  30. Nipper says:

    Lets face it, we’re here to share stuff about football not concern ourselves with someone sitting or taking a knee before the national anthem. The story has gotten tiresome. The media has found the latest story to obsess over. Perhaps they’ll go back to covering Trump and Hillary going at it. Ouch! Those people are mean! Our future leaders? Ouch!

  31. Berger says:

    RT’s story was the perfect metaphor for what is happening here. I didn’t say I’m boycotting this site I said I’m boycotting this thread. I’m done clapping even if it gets me carted off. I can handle the kneeling but I refuse to stand and clap with people who support some jack ass calling cops murderers.

    So you folks just keep clapping. When you decide to quit clapping and talk football I’ll come back. Just not on this thread.

    BTW, I’m doing a terrible job of boycotting! LOL!

  32. unca_chuck says:

    Yeah, Bergs brings it up and runs away. Didn’t think he was that superficial.

    WInder going for the win? Ballsy. I think we can, esp based on how Denver beat them, but I don’t think we will given the short week and travel

    24-20 Panthers.

  33. unca_chuck says:

    TOP is one of my favorite local bands. Best horn section ever.

    Sorry if this offends you, Bergs.

  34. unca_chuck says:

    NoFear, back from the dead, resumes his curmudgeonly ways. Stop on by, dude.

    • 12th man says:

      Happy to hear NFL is still amongst us. Don’t know where it came from that he died.

      I’ve had enough of the anthem story too.

      I can’t bring myself to believe the Niners can get a win in Carolina, just a hope they maybe have a punches chance, Buster Douglas style.

      21-17 Panthers.

  35. unca_chuck says:

    Some are, Bergs. That’s the reality. There’s enough tape out there to see it with your own eyes. That you refuse to believe it is your problem.

    Unless you think shooting an unarmed guy running away from you is a threat. Or the countless other cases.

  36. 12th man says:

    Talking of idiots, where is Dennis? You banned him again Chuck?

  37. unca_chuck says:

    Yeah, unlike skeebs, I ban racist trolls.

  38. Winder says:

    Don’t know if I did this one here before, but I really like this version and thought you guys might too.

  39. Winder says:

    Just a little history for fun.

    See above.

  40. Winder says:

    Yeah, she also looks like a girl I used to run around with years ago. Pretty close to 9 years we went back and forth. Always was a sucker for little blonds with a nice rack.

  41. NoFear49er says:

    I don’t know how the end came for me either. I hope it was an interesting story at least.

    Everyone is so quick to comment that they support Kaepernick’s right to spit on the flag and any other symbol of the country from which he’s taken so much, always citing his freedom of speech to say what he wants. But where is that support for Dennis who gets blasted relentlessly and banned for the same thing? Seems like, for some, it’s only free speech when it’s politically correct speech.

    As an aside, “free speech” is only the protection from the federal government’s punishment, not private citizens or private enterprises.

    Either way, I’m not getting out my wallet or out of my chair to support a bunch of overpaid crybabies and their chosen form of black power in your face gestures.

  42. unca_chuck says:

    This s a blog, NoFear. Get it? I can ban who I see fit. V was banned for years of inanity. He was warned and then banned. Dennis spouted racist bullshit, He was warned and banned.

    You served for what, NoFear? So you can push your ideas on the rest of us? We should bow to what the military thinks is respectful behavior? There are plenty of soldiers, current and retired who are saying they fought for exactly what Kaepernick is doing. And that is peacefully protesting. You don’t have to agree with what he’s doing, but you HAVE to understand it is completely within his right.

    Racist comments are taken down, NoFear. If you equate the two then I can’t help you and your misguided views. You are like Clint Eastwood in Gran Torino. The guys is a racist xenophobe who has to be beaten over the head repeatedly to clue in to the fact that other people suffer the same problems and issues as him. Maybe even more than he.

  43. unca_chuck says:

    Hey, if you want to espouse your racist views go for it. I just won’t allow it here. If you think this si some kind of free speech forum, well, think again.

  44. rtfirefly says:

    NF, my post on Skeebs didn’t appear so I’ll repeat it here. It’s great to see the rumors of your demise were premature.

  45. NoFear49er says:

    Yeah, a lot more to that free speech thing than trotting it out only to support your PC causes.

    Like the stolen valor law that the courts want to strike down citing it violates free speech. So I can say I’m a judge a police officer or feebee and it’s the same as you saying you’re a decorated veteran. Free speech, right?

    The entire league can take a knee for all I care. It ain’t changing anything. Just letting these entitled chumps who all get special treatment as pro athletes cry and whine about everybody else not getting it?

    The federal policies are the most un-biased of any. Wrong target.

    The right targets for black lives matter are planned parenthood and other black males not the police and certainly not the flag or anthem. Low intelligence priviledged assholes. Want to make a statement? Refuse to play!

    Nobody fought and died for what Kaepernick is doing. ie: taking a no-effort no-cost opportunity to promote himself. The idea you’re searching for is the government is prevented from taking punitive action against someone speaking out against it. Not the NFL or the 49ers. The league didn’t have a problem shutting down memorial tributes to 9/11 victims or police killed in ambush. Where’s your outrage?

    http://bit.ly/2crCU3O

  46. NoFear49er says:

    Thanks, Pat. I think so, too.

  47. rtfirefly says:

    There aren’t many blacks in Albuquerque, yet the PD was so notorious for shooting unarmed civilians that the FBI had to come in and retrain the entire police force.

    It’s not an academic issue when it’s in your own backyard.

  48. unca_chuck says:

    I’ve called out the NFL on plenty of issues. NoFear. Mainly their abject greed at every turn. The breast cancer awareness thing is a prime example. DeAnglo Williams wants to wear pink for the whole season to honor his mom who died of breast cancer. The NFL say you will be fined. Wear pink when we tell you to wear pink.

    CK may be wrong and/or stupid in everyone’s eyes. That doesn’t mean he should be vilified for makng a stand. Criminals, rapists, and convicted felons get less animosity than this. Ray Rice was cheered when he returned from his suspension. I find that rather sickening. But this is the society we live in. Beat up your chick, or kid? That’s best left at home. Kneel for a song? Get hung from the yardarm. It’s insane.

    I was the one saying RayMac should be suspended. Why? Because the girl had strangle marks on her throat according to the police. That’s enough evidence. You don’t believe them in that case? But all he shootings are justified? Got it.

  49. unca_chuck says:

    Planned parenthood? Com down out of your ivory tower, NoFear.

  50. Winder says:

    Off topic- There is a burrito made with spiced beef/beef jerkey and for the life of me I can’t remember the name of it. Throw in some rice, cheese and beans, peppers and it is a delight. Anyone know what it’s called?

  51. unca_chuck says:

    Spicy beef burrito.

    Hey, new thread is up.

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