Not sure what the benefit is for the 49ers front office to come out and say that the head coach wants Mac Jones, and the rest of the brain trust wants Trey Lance. The debate has been ongoing since the 49ers made the drastic move of trading the future for this draft on Thursday. I certainly understand their need to get a top-flight quarterback as the 3 QBs in our division are dynamic studs who have proven themselves (well, Kyler Murray not so much, but he is looking to be the real deal on a young team).
Russell Wilson has single-handedly kept the Seahawks in contention while the O line crumbles around him. The Rams cut their losses with Jared Goff and went all-in on Matthew Stafford. Kyler Murray has shown flashes of being in the Mahomes/Wilson/Jackson mold of extending plays while burning defenses with broken rushing plays off scrambles.
So, again, what’s the impetus for us to dither publicly about our choice? Does it give the Jets pause about their choice of Zach Wilson? I really think not. We’ve basically eliminated the idea of choosing Justin Fields. News of his epilepsy certainly hasn’t helped his draft stock, but he will go in the top 10 regardless of what we do.
I’m still of a mind that the higher risk in Trey Lance is the wiser choice rather than the safer Mac Jones pick. I just don’t think the idea of getting a statue in the backfield will help the cause in the long run. Our line is a work in progress, and will be forced to protect at all costs while Jones can hopefully get the ball out. Something he rarely had to do at Alabama. They were pretty much an NFL-ready line that gave Jones all day to hit his all-world wide recievers in DeVonta Adams and Jaylen Waddle.
Which is another bit of an Alabama red flag. They had a very talented team, what with the Wrs mentioned, along with Antioch’s own Najee Harris. Yes, we have a lot of playmakers, but can Jones keep up that level of play in the faster and more insane NFL game? A huge question mark.
To top it all off, everyone is saying that this is Shanny’s choice. Where is John Lynch? The articles all mention that Shanny may ‘acquiesce’ to the desires of the rest of the front office, but there’s no guarantee there. Yeah, Shanny runs the offense, but Lynch is supposed to run the TEAM.
As I’ve said, we’ll have to wait and see with whoever they draft, but if it is Jones, I will be disappointed. I could give a rat’s ass about how the prognosticators are going to crucify the Jone pick, but I really don’t want them to go in that direction.
PS. Thanks once again to NJ for his stellar draft work.
NJ’s Draft board.
April 25, 2021 at 11:38 pm (Edit)
Almost there Gents –
Here’s what I got for the ’21 Draft after the drama of the 3rd Pick is answered 😀
Jayson Oweh – PSU – 6’5″/252
Carlos Basham – WF – 6’5″/285
Patrick Jones II – Pitt – 6’5″/260
Daelin Hayes – ND – 6’3″/258
Tarron Jackson – Coastal Carolina – 6’2″/260
April 25, 2021 at 11:39 pm (Edit)
Jaycee Horn – SC – 6’1″/205
Ifeatu Melifonwu – SYR – 6’3″/213
Divine Deablo – VA Tech – 6’3″/223
Aaron Robinson – UCF 6’1″/ 193
Andre Cisco – SYR – 6’0″/209
April 25, 2021 at 11:43 pm (Edit)
Azeez Ojulari – UGA – 6’3″/240
Chazz Surratt – UNC – 6’2″/225
Garrett Wallow – TCU – 6’2″/230
Tony Fields II – WVU – 6’1″/220
Quincy Roche – Miami – 6’3″/245
April 25, 2021 at 11:49 pm (Edit)
Kyle Pitts – UF – 6’5″/246
Tre’ McKitty – UGA – 6’5″/245
Hunter Long – BC – 6’5″/253
Nick Eubanks – MI – 6’5″/256
Matt Bushman – BYU – 6’5″/245
April 25, 2021 at 11:53 pm (Edit)
Ja’marr Chase – LSU – 6’0″/208
Rashod Bateman – MN – 6’1″/190
Dez Fitzpatrick – Louisville – 6’2″/210
Elijah Moore – Ole Miss – 5’10″/178
Shi Smith – SCAR – 5’10″/190
April 25, 2021 at 11:55 pm (Edit)
Richie Grant – UCF – 6’0″/194
Caden Sterns TX – 6’1″/207
Divine Deablo – Va Tech – 6’3″/223
Jevon Holland – OR – 6’1″/201
Tyree Gillespie – MO – 6’0″/210
April 25, 2021 at 11:57 pm (Edit)
Ben Mason – MI – 6’3″/254
Adam Prentice – SCAR – 6’0″/251
Rhamondre Stevenson – OK – 6’0″/246
Kylen Granson (H-Back) – SMU – 6’3″/235
Noah Hannon – App St – 6’0″/238
April 25, 2021 at 11:58 pm (Edit)
Chuba Hubbard – OK St – 6’0″/208
Elijah Mitchell – LA – 5’11″/218
Deon Jackson – Duke – 6’0″/215
Kene Nwangwu – IA St – 6’1″/210 (4.29)
Michael Carter – UNC – 5’8″/199
Kenny Gainwell – Memphis – 5’11″/195 (Slot)
Pooka Williams – KS – 5’10″/170 (Slot)
April 25, 2021 at 11:58 pm (Edit)
Landon Dickerson – AL – 6’6″/325
Creed Humphrey – OK – 6’5″/320
Quinn Meinerz – UWW – 6’3″/320
Josh Myers – OH State – 6’5″/312
Drew Dalman – Stanford – 6’3″/300
April 25, 2021 at 11:58 pm (Edit)
Wyatt Davis – OH State – 6’4″/315
Trey Smith – TN – 6’6″/330
Alex Leatherwood – AL – 6’6″/312
Kendrick Green – IL – 6’4″/315
Ben Cleveland – UGA – 6’6″/350
April 25, 2021 at 11:59 pm (Edit)
Spencer Brown – UNI – 6’8″/318
Rashawn Slater – NW – 6’4″/315
Sam Cosmi – TX – 6’6″/314
Dillon Radunz – No Dakota St – 6’6″/299
Brady Christensen – BYU – 6’6″/302
April 25, 2021 at 11:59 pm (Edit)
And just for the fun of it…..
Jose Borregales – Miami – 5’10″/205
There’s no reason to be thinking there off the Justin Fields pick it’s been known since his youth that epilepsy runs in the family and it’s not affected him with his monitored meds. Maybe everyone has forgotten about HOF Pittsburgh Steelers Offensive Guard Alan Faneca? who played with epilepsy throughout his whole long stellar career!
Listen I’ll settle for Lance the more raw prospect with up side as well obviously but Fields is more ready now and could learn quicker when Jimmy G goes down again are even traded to step in immediately.
They pass on Fields watch for Cheating Bill jump up to 7-8 to get him and that would piss me off..
He can have Jones instead all day long either way the Pats have been very aggressive this off season and I expect that to continue on draft day..
Still and all I don’t get the airing of our thoughts around who we are thinking about getting and not getting. Unless we are gonna do some kind of draft-and-trade deal with someone. Which is baffling again because this is pretty straightforward. Draft the guy you want.
Now that it is public knowledge that Shanny wants Jones and Lynch wants Lance, when the pick is made, it telegraphs who is happy with the pick and who isn’t. Sure, it all could be some kind of smoke-and-mirrors around getting Wilson somehow, but I don’t see it.
I watched a show with Mac Jones dissecting defenses with pre-read and real time reading. He was even pre-reading the pass rush to know how much time he had to throw. This kid is already reading defenses and pressure like a veteran. I saw some of him running Alabama’s scout team last year. he’s got some athleticism. This kid is probably ready to start immediately. Mentally, he’s got it.
When the Ohio St coach was asked about Field’s lapses in work ethic he did not flatly deny it. Hmmm?
Lance was all one pre-read then run. Then he started talking politics. For me he is solidly out. I want a football player who concentrates on football. These athletes who talk politics, no matter the side, end up being a distraction. Think Tebow on the right and Kap on the left. I would want neither.
I’m leaning Jones again. I do still like Fields. Ultimately, I just hope we pick the right one. Won’t know the answer to that for 2 or 3 years.
From the Athletic NFL Staff, not just one writer
The San Francisco 49ers hold the third pick in the NFL Draft when it kicks off with Round 1 on April 29. The 49ers own nine selections in the seven-round draft.
That No. 3 selection should serve as a pivot point in the draft after quarterbacks Trevor Lawrence and Zach Wilson presumably go to Jacksonville and New York, respectively, with the first two picks. San Francisco plans to grab its quarterback of the future as it seeks a replacement for the oft-injured Jimmy Garoppolo, with an NFL Network report on Sunday indicating the decision is down to Alabama’s Mac Jones and North Dakota State’s Trey Lance.
49ers’ needs in the draft
Quarterback: The 49ers announced this in the clearest way possible by trading this year’s No. 12 pick, two future first-round picks and a 2022 third-round pick to Miami for the No. 3 selection, where they’ve indicated they will take a quarterback. Jimmy Garoppolo is still on the roster as the presumed starter for now, but the 49ers are looking for better availability and perhaps a higher ceiling at the position when they draft their future starter here. Whether that’s Alabama’s Mac Jones, Ohio State’s Justin Fields or North Dakota State’s Trey Lance, this position will be the first one Shanahan and Lynch address on April 29.
Cornerback: The 49ers retained Jason Verrett in free agency and also brought back Emmanuel Mosley and nickleback K’waun Williams, so their starting lineup is largely set. But Verrett and Williams are on one-year deals and the 49ers still need more depth and a long-term answer at outside cornerback. This regime hasn’t invested higher than a third-round pick on a cornerback (Ahkello Witherspoon in 2017) and may have to finally do so.
Defensive end: The 49ers have more bodies at the position after signing Samson Ebukam and Jordan Willis in free agency. But with Nick Bosa (knee) and Dee Ford (back) coming off serious injuries, the position remains murky. At the very least, they could use another quality defensive end — like Ronald Blair in 2019 and Kerry Hyder in 2020 — to anchor their second-team unit.
Offensive line: The 49ers have three good options at tackle in Trent Williams, Mike McGlinchey and Shon Coleman. Still, they have to make a decision on McGlinchey’s fifth-year option next month, and Coleman is signed for just the 2021 season. It might make sense to take advantage of an unusually deep group of tackles this year. Right guard, where Daniel Brunskill is penciled in, has been a problematic position in recent seasons and the 49ers may want to find someone who can be groomed at center behind veteran Alex Mack.
Wide receiver: The 49ers have 12 receivers under contract, but only three — Deebo Samuel, Brandon Aiyuk and special-teamer Trent Sherfield — seem like locks for the Week 1 roster. As with offensive tackle, this is a strong draft for receivers and there might be some excellent slot receiver options in Rounds 2 and 3.
49ers’ draft history
First-round picks from the last five years
2020: DT Javon Kinlaw, pick 14: The 49ers traded DeForest Buckner to Indianapolis last year for the pick used to draft Kinlaw, whom they hope will be a less expensive version of the All-Pro defensive tackle.
2020: WR Brandon Aiyuk, pick 25: The 49ers moved up late in the first round to take Aiyuk, who finished fifth among NFL rookies with 60 catches, sixth with 748 yards and tied for fourth with five receiving touchdowns. He added two rushing TDs.
2019: DE Nick Bosa, pick 2: A slam-dunk choice after Kyler Murray went No. 1 to Arizona, Bosa was the defensive rookie of the year in 2019 but missed the final 14 games in 2020 with a torn ACL.
2018: T Mike McGlinchey, pick 9: One of the league’s better run-blocking tackles, McGlinchey’s struggles in pass protection last season often made the highlights, and the 49ers have a decision to make on his fifth-year option.
2017: DL Solomon Thomas, pick 3: Part of a disastrous first-round class in Shanahan and Lynch’s first draft, Thomas was a bust as a top-three pick. He signed with the Raiders in free agency this offseason.
2017: LB Reuben Foster, pick 31: Another late first-round trade-up, Foster flashed playmaking ability as a rookie, even though he struggled to stay healthy. But off-the-field legal issues led to his release in November 2018.
2016: DT DeForest Buckner, pick 7: The 49ers’ mounting expenses — Arik Armstead and George Kittle were also due new contracts last offseason — forced them before the 2020 draft to trade one of their defensive mainstays to Indianapolis, where he then signed a four-year, $84 million deal.
2016: G Joshua Garnett, pick 28: Selecting Stanford players in the first round hasn’t been kind to the 49ers recently. Garnett started 11 games as a rookie but has played in just 10 NFL games since. He played three games for Washington last season before retiring in October.
My problem with Jones is he may just be a decent QB on a great team.
That Alabama team has 2 1st round WRs, a couple 1st round O linemen and the best RB in college in local kid Najee Harris. He won’t have near the time in the pros as he did in college.
That is the same concern I have. Of course fields has all that too. I think it is very possible that Jones made it all look so easy he doesn’t get the credit he deserves. Alabama had this talent last year and and didn’t even make the championship game. Jones seemed to be the difference.
Happy to share Chuck.
Kinda empty this year due to Combine elimination. I’d prefer to have the stats to do my comparisons but…..it is what it is.
I still think Kyle Pitts is worth the Pick at 3 too.
6’6″ runs sub 4.5?
I see Megatron 2.0
However, Jimmy isn’t going to be the guy to get it to him as it looks right now anyway.
That said, lets hope this isn’t another Solomon Thomas debacle or, Shanny wanting a RB named Joe Williams at the expense of the rest of the Draft pool.
No matter the selection, it will be seismic for Shanny and Lynch.
When I think about it, why are there no articles saying a team hopes the Niners don’t take Jones…hmmm
Considering the comparisons for Jones have been Tom Brady I have seen that NE wants him to fall. Listening to Jones talk about what the defense was showing and his options was something you just don’t expect from a college QB. Add his accuracy and decision making and he just seems like an obvious choice. I firmly see him as the next Peyton Manning if he can handle pressure and not get rattled.
The blogosphere has made it clear that Jones is not worthy of a pick that high. That we could have gotten him for free at 12 instead of throwing the world at Miami to trade up.
Good, bad, or indifferent, we will get crucified if we make that pick. I could give two fucks, but he’d better work out if we do pick him. I think he’s gonna follow a long line of slow white guys who just don’t quite make it in the pros.
Here’s the rest of the arrows in the quiver for the weekend –
RD3 – 102
RD4 – 117
RD5 – 155, 172, 180
RD7 – 230
At this point i don’t really give a fuck who we pick. I just have to put some faith in our FO and that they know what they are doing. The Niners have pissed away so many 1st rd picks that it isn’t funny. If we piss this one off then we are actually out two first rders. I can live with that and don’t think it would take us back to 2008. I like that we are rolling the dice and i think it takes some guts to do it. I don’t think Shanny gives one fuck about what the fans think at this point. So if it’s Mac then I am all for it.
For me it would be Fields, Jones, Lance.
Fields looks fairly polished already and adds the athletic dimension.
Jones looks ready to go but lacks the athletic dimension for today’s game.
Lance is athletic looks like a one read guy from a small school with a small sample size.
That and 2 bucks gets you a cup of coffee at 7eleven.
My point is, Lance has the biggest upside, Fields less so, and Jones even less less so.
Like I said a month ago, if they dump Jimmy G, I good and goddamn guarantee you qwe are getting Jones.
Sorry bros, but I’m out of commission. Shamaham is in charge of running the team into the ground now. Nipper hooked me up with a ride out of Levi’s and when this van’s a-rockin, don’t come a-knockin. That means you, Chuck.
Spitblood, how is Nipper?
Fields =Dak Prescott
Lance = Josh Allen
Jones = Matt Barkley
SF do the math ..