Speaking of Quarterbacks

The list is long and plentiful for NFL teams in search of the next Joe Montana. Or Namath. Or even Joe Ferguson. Among the teams in the hunt is of course the Cleveland Browns. They have had about 50 shots at getting their guy, and have failed miserably every time.

Cleve has pick 1 and 4 in this draft, and even if they get Kirk Cousins, they look to bolster their ranks with Rosen or Darnold with the 1. Thing is, though, they could simply pick Barkley with the 1 and bet that the Colts don’t take a QB in the 3 slot. The Giants are nearly a sure thing to take a QB in the 2 spot as Eli’s going (hide your heart, girl). But when has the Factory of Sadness ever done the right thing? Anyhow, here are the teams looking for QBs:

Cleveland (Kizer)
New York Football Giants (Manning)
New York J-e-t-s (who cares?)
Denver (Squadoosh)
AZ (Dogmeat)
Buff Bills (Taylor)
Jags (Bort-[urk]-les)
Vikes (3 shades of turd)

Then you have teams like Pittsburgh and San Die, uh the LA Clip, uh, LA Chargers who have elite QBs nearling the end of their careers. in Rivers and Big Ben. Washington was recently removed from this list as they of course traded, and extended his deal, for Young Sir Alex. The QBs that look to be drafted quickly are:

Sam Darnold
Josh Rosen
Josh Allen
Baker Mayfield
Mason Rudolph

Free agency for Qbs look like this. The big prize of course is:

Jimmy Gaoppolo
Kirk Cousins
Tyrod Taylor
Eli Manning
Drew Brees
The three-headed turds that are the Vikings QBs Keenum, Bradford, and Bridgewater
Blake (urk) Bortles

Garoppolo is a Niner. The bigger ? with him is, will he get a big deal from the front office or will the Niners hedge their bet and tag him. Me-hopes they sign him. It may be premature, but when you have what looks like the deal of the day, you take it. Garoppolo played well and won against some very good defenses behind a shitty line with little weapons at his disposal. SIGN HIM!

Give him the proper tools and he will shine. The risk is of course he regresses and we are stuck with a huge deal. The opposite of this is SIGN HIM! of course he does very well and his deal becomes 40% more than we could have signed him. SIGN HIM!

Manning stays in NY, Brees stays in NO, Bortles likely stays in Jax, Minn keeps Bridgwater and Bradford, Taylor has already been benched for erratic play, so he hits the market.  As does Keenum. Which of course leaves the biggest prize in Kirk Cousins. Since Washington and the Niners have found their QBs, he’s in uncharted waters.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see Cleve go all-in on QBs by getting Cousins and drafting  Darnold and Barkley at the 1 and 4.  They could do a lot worse. The Giants likely get Rosen with their #2 overall pick. Denver gets the next QB off the board by taking Josh Allen. I don’t think Mayfield is going this high off the board. In fact I think Rudolph will fly up the draft boards and go to the Jets. Which leaves the Cards taking Mayfield.

Hey it could happen.

 

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53 Responses to Speaking of Quarterbacks

  1. rob says:

    Jimmy G is 7-0 as a starter 5-0 with the previously 1-8 49ers !

  2. rob says:

    67.3 comp
    2,250 yds
    12 td
    5 int (all with us)
    99.7 rat

  3. Nipper says:

    Whatever……Jimmy G. gets signed. The Niners have no other option and Jimmy’s agent knows this. Be prepared for big numbers. I mean big, big, gigantic numbers.

  4. unca_chuck says:

    They would be bigger if we franchise him this year. Which is my point. They need to sign him and be done with it.

  5. Winder says:

    I believe they could tag him and still be able to work out a dear before the season starts.I could very well be wrong on that. From what I have been reading is a deal probably won’t get done until July

  6. unca_chuck says:

    I don’t think they’ll tag him and then sign him this year. There’s no benefit there. If they wait it’ll cost them.

  7. NJ49er says:

    The achilles heel in all of this drama is, Alex’s KC/DC PRE FA non-legal deal, deal.
    One again, the years long suspicions many of us have held, that League rules were nothing more than Politics. Smoke and mirrors.

    We all knew that those 1st hour FA signings, on Day 1 of new League years were prearranged.
    The NFL is a swamp of billionaire deal makers.

    Putting Cousins into the fray now, tilts every parameter of Draft/FA prep and, will likely stall our negotiations with Jimmys’ Agent.
    Why sign early, when the next QB deal will likely set the Mkt level?

    Paraag better set the Mkt, and wrap Jimmy up, NOW, before FA starts in March, or he’ll be forced to use the F-Tag, and, look like Snyder and Cousins next year.

    • Winder says:

      I think Paraag will meet his match in Yee. I think we gotta tag him in March and then get him signed long term. If Jimmy wants to be here we will get it done before the season starts

      • NJ49er says:

        Winder I see the F-Tag as a delay tactic.
        I also see Paraag as Dr Daddy’s alter ego.
        Captain CheapAss Jr.
        We have the Cap assets.
        We have a viable, capable QB in Jimmy.
        The Shanny/Cousins connection not withstanding, Jimmy, IMO, is head and shoulders, the better QB.

        Get him signed or, suffer the risks Paraag.

      • Winder says:

        Yeah, I don’t think Cousins is in the picture any longer. The reason I think we might have to throw the tag on him is due to Yee. He is gonna want to wait until all the QB’s in the league have resigned(Rodgers, ect.)and there is no way we know when that will happen. I think we will pay him what he wants or at least what will make him happy but I think Yee knows he has us by the short hairs.

      • NJ49er says:

        That’s my fear too Winder.
        Paraag has shown himself to be a stickler to his Moneyball tactics in recent years, (Iupati).
        I’d like to see him set the Mkt before the Mkt sets it for him.

        The missing piece is in the building.
        Jimmy is a deserving investment IMO.

        I have read that Yee has been known to do Team friendly deals. Reason for optimism I guess?

        Hope they can get it hammered out before going the F-TAG route.

  8. unca_chuck says:

    As coveted as Cousins is, he really hasn’t done a ton of great things. I didn’t know enough about Garoppolo before this season started, but he sure did well with a shitty team around him. I’m much higher on Jimmy G than Kirk now.

    That alone should be enough for these guys to get a deal done. And the sooner the better. The longer they wait, the higher the price tag gets. They HAVE to know this. As proven by the Alex Smith deal, they don;t have to wait for the official start of the 2018 season on March 9th. They can get a deal done now and worry about the rest of free agency and the draft as it comes.

    • Winder says:

      Yeah, it really is up to Yee when he wants this thing to get done. It if were up to us it would be done already. If Yee wants to see what the QB’s in the league are getting there is nothing we can do about it but wait.

  9. 12th Man says:

    You guys may not agree but I see CB as THE most important position of need on the team. If he becomes available I would grab Dion Lewis from the Pats. An expensive proposition for sure, but it’s not my money.

  10. 12th Man says:

    Something more. I like Alex Smith as a person, but he is flawed as a QB and I highly doubt he can win the big one. I also think he got the shitty end of the stick in SF. But before we lament his treatment, just add up the money he has received so far in the NFL. He has to be in the top 5 currently in the NFL both received and now guaranteed money in Washington.

    Not bad for a game manager.

  11. Nipper says:

    “You just talked to a bad ass!”…….Charles Haley sharing his thoughts on SB WEEK!

  12. unca_chuck says:

    Super Bowl week? Haven’t paid one second of time or thought on the game. I just hope Philly beats NE. I’m sick to death of all the Brady talk about best ever. Has he dominated a game? He dominated one half last year. All the rest were varying flavors of field goals and field position battles.

    The fact remains if Philly can consistently pressure Brady with their front 4, they should be able to beat NE. Their defense isn’t scaring anyone and Philly has a way of playing the TOP battle to their advantage.

    Young Sir Alex is Young Sir Alex He seems to be snakebit. In his best chances he was thwarted by:

    a) Kyle (I’m-trying-to-get-you-to-forget-Preston-Riley) Williams
    b) Andrew Luck overcoming a 28 point deficit as KCs DBs were all hurt and he screwed up on a wide open post route
    c) Andy Reid forgetting he had the league leading rusher

    I wouldn’t go so far as to say he’s flawed, but there is something missing. Some of the other greats didn’t make it (Fouts), and Smith is certainly better than some of the past winners.

    • Winder says:

      Washington’s run game isn’t as good as Gore’s 49ers or the last few years of KC’s. They are gonna have to pick up a RB that can stay on the field. None of their WR’s are as good as Tyreek Hill(sp) is either. I think he’s gonna have a tough go of it.

  13. unca_chuck says:

    Oh yeah. It ain’t gonna be easy for Young Sir Alex. Wash needs line help as well.

  14. unca_chuck says:

    The Washington swamp Monsters?

  15. Berger says:

    49ers get 2 into the Pro Football Hall Of Fame! T.O. and Moss!

  16. Berger says:

    I would go with the Washington Double Bocks since that was the beer he made!

  17. NJ49er says:

    How about the DC Danny’s?

    12th I’m with you regarding a CB.
    Holding out hope, that there will be a huge QB run at the Top and, Minkah slides.
    My 2 coveted pieces remain QNelson and Minkah.
    Can’t see it happening for us down in slot 9/10 however.

    If both are gone, I’m leaning DT Vita Vea/ OLD/DE Tremaine Edmunds right now but, I’m still awaiting Combine data to see if someone else will change my mind 😀

  18. Winder says:

    I am pissed that Lynch didn’t get in this go around. He belongs in the HOF.

  19. unca_chuck says:

    Hey at least TO got in. As big a pain in the ass as he was, he was head and shoulders the best WR of his time. Course he said he wanted the 49ers to be no part of it.

    • Winder says:

      Yeah, he had the talent but it was always about TO and not the team. A true prima donna and he let everyone know it.

      • Winder says:

        In my mind what TO did to the 49er organization was just as distracting as what Kap did last year. I can’t stand the person.

  20. NJ49er says:

    This could be the end of Cleveland’s run of futility.
    They apparently figured out what good Drafting does for your future.
    Welcome Scot McCloughan.

    WOW….

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22316771/ex-washington-redskins-gm-scot-mccloughan-work-cleveland-browns-draft

  21. Berger says:

    It is being reported the 49ers and JG are close to getting the contract done.

  22. Lurker John says:

    Say what you want about T.O., he absolutely deserves to be in the HOF. His numbers are staggering. He’s also still one of the great draft picks in team history. Yeah, he was a diva but the dude could play. All time end zone celebration: pulling a Sharpie out of his sock in Seattle on MNF and signing the ball.

  23. Lurker John says:

    Now Brady has lost three. He can kiss my ass.

  24. unca_chuck says:

    TO was great with Rice as his mentor. When Rice left, he lost his way and became the distraction that took over his personality.

    Meant to put up a Super Bowl thread but got too busy. Nice game! Somewhere, Chuck Bednarick is smiling ,. ,. ,.

  25. Nipper says:

    Nice to see a new SB winner. Go Eagles! I once got a ticket on a motorcycle going the wrong way on a one-way street during one night of speeding around there.

  26. rob says:

    At least NE didn’t win

  27. unca_chuck says:

    You wild man, Nip. We know so little about you . . . WOOF!

    New thread is up.

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