Well, the seaon comes to an inglorious end. Lots of changes look to be on the future. David (lefty) Akers, Alex Smith, Dashon Goldson, Ted Ginn, Leonard Davis, Jonathan Gooodwin, Larry Grant, Ricky Jean, Randy Moss, and Delanie Walker (among a few other backups) are all UFAs. Frankly a lot of these guys look to leave. I’d put Alex, Goldson, Ginn, L Davis, Goodwin, and Randy (what, me try?) on the goodbye list.
Grant proved to be an able back up last year when Willis went down. He’s a keeper. Ricky Jean may not be big enoung in the middle, but he’s a solid back up on the line. He stays. The rest? Goodwin’s old, maybe a one year deal. L Davis is a possible keeper, but we have Kilgore and Looney waiting in the wings. Alex? Please. If he wants to stick around an be a backup, he’s a fool. It’s all in his court. Moss? Fuck him. If he can’t get up for a Super Bowl then see ya. Ginn? 4th string WR and a fading punt returner. Bye. Goldson wants a huge payday. Take the 3/25 from 3 years ago, or adios muchacho. Walker? He’s too inconsistent. he has great games followed by games (like the Atl game) where balls clank off his hands like, uh, things that bounce off other things. Sue me, I’m tired.
The Niners have a ton (14) of picks and can afford to get some good FA WRs, CBs, or whatever they don’t nail in the draft by. The core of the team is solid, and they should be able to fill ouyt the roster going forward.
I’m out of here for a while. See y’all next week. Time to forget me some football and hit the slopes. Love that run off to the right there off the Lincoln Chair at Sugar Bowl.
12th man, I’d prefer to see qualified armed-guards at schools where the local community sees the need for it. I’d like to see school staff and students run preparedness drills for active shooter scenarios like fire drills. When was the last time kids were hurt in a school fire? And an end to gun-free zones.
What I think we will see is Obama pushing his agenda with or without the support of Congress and in further trampling of the Constitution to appease some of his base and advance his agenda, all to no real good just feel-good for the Chuck’s of the world to say we did it for the kids.
Chuck, spoken like a mind-numbed sheep. Why would you presume I have nothing at stake? Oh yeah, you’re a left-wing nutjob who thinks he’s the only one who cares about anything.
Did you ever notice that these guys always choose the so-called “gun free zones” to make their statements. Only the guy with the guns is going to have anything to say about how many are killed, or be able to stop the guy doing the killing. Those “zones” are what your ilk believe represent safety.
Did you ever try to carry 10,000 rounds of ammo or 10 AR-15s? A single weapon, with 100 or 30 rounds will more than do the job if killing innocents is the goal. Your outrage sounds more like panic. Guns have been around a long time. They don’t load, aim and shoot themselves.
The important thing is, you don’t get to say what’s right for you is what’s right for everyone. Lucky for all of us.
My middle school kids just ran a lockdown drill at their school last week. They were told it was because of the Sandy Hook incident. The high schools here have dedicated school police already. A school cop, Jeff Stenroos, shot himself with his back up weapon in the chest (he had a vest on) then said he was attacked by an assailant. They locked down the area for hours before allowing the kids out. He is in prison now.
Well girls, it’s been a fun debate. All I can say is do your part. Don’t point fingers at everyone else. Grump’s right….. we should think of the children. We all have our own opinions.
To show there’s no hard feelin’s after a spirited debate…..
No local communities see the need until it happens. Newtown had some version of a man trap that was overcome pretty easily. Most schools are pretty spread out and have multiple entrances. Columbine had an armed guard. Didn’t help much, did it? Gun free zones? What the fuck are you talking about? This has to do with assault rifles, not inner cities. Ask any cop in any city, he ain’t concerned with assault rifles. It’s handguns. Not sure what your point there is.
Obama may be pissing on the constitution, but it ain’t the 2nd amendment he’s pissing on. It’s illegal search and seizure, wiretapping, eavesdropping, and the like, yet no one gives a flying fuck about it. Yeah, that’s the left’s problem. They cried like babies when Bush instituted the Patriot Act. It lingers on and gets more onerous, but no one cares. It’s laughable. You call me a sheep, but you offer niothing but semantics in your dealings with gun reform? That’s all you got? Good job.
I presume you have nothing at stake because you accept civilian casualties, mainy children in these high-profile scenarios, as a by-product of the gun mentality that pervades this coiuntry. What should we do about the problem, NoFear? Is there a problem in your eyes? Or shouild we all just accept the fact that x number of innocent children get gunned down by whack jobs so Billy fucking Survivalist can have his 30 M-16s and his 50 shell clips. Perfect. Head in the sand cure.
Again, NoFear, what is there to do? Accept 50 kids per year killed in cold blood as the cost of freedom? 40? 20? What’s the acceptable number?
When does enough become enough before something is done?
That bargain is only valid if you believe the perpetrators of these acts will have no answer, and that trading away that freedom will really net you 10 or 20 or 50 lives.
There is no proof of that.
Explosives or chemicals could easily take MORE lives rather than fewer. So what next? Do we ban fertilizer and pool chemical sales? Do we ban free speech about these topics?
In a complete police state, these crimes will be more difficult. Not impossible, but certainly more difficult. Does that make a police state desirable? Not to me – I think we’ve gone too far down that road already.
I do not want my children to survive the crazies of the world, only to be slaves to its wolves.
There is no acceptable number Chuck, 1 is too many. Unfortunately the “solutions” of restricting magazines and banning assault rifles will not materially affect the possibility of a further tragedy. I have 6 kids so I am a stakeholder by your definition, but to me the solutions don’t lie in false hope feel good laws. This is not news to the gun control lobby, they are well aware that these proposals do nothing to enhance safety in schools or cinemas but its low hanging fruit and serves a purpose albeit not the advertised one.
In my particular household I am uncomfortable with the idea of loaded weapons accessible to kids. I have a gun safe for some items and I keep a gun in my nightstand with a trigger lock. I figure the risk that I won’t have time to unlock it is less than the risk of a kid, which could be a visiting kid, finding an unlocked gun. Its a risk I am willing to take. I also have an M18 taser which is unlocked. My wife has a gun and on occasion that travels with her in her purse when she feels the need for a little extra insurance.
We each do what we are comfortable with, but I have no right to impose my comfort level on you and vice versa and our government has no right either, both constitutionally and because the proposed laws do nothing to enhance the safety issue and they know it.
Here in Cali we have an assault weapons ban. There are some loopholes around it but in general it is in effect. Crime did not dip when it was instituted, there is no noticeable change whatsoever outside of the trend of less gun violence in general. No spike was seen in the trend and no gun control lobbyist can point to California as the shining example of how effective an assault weapons ban would be nationwide or you can bet your ass they would be shouting it from the rooftops.
I understand the feelings of helplessness people have as well as the desire to be proactive in doing something to stop another Sandy Hook but the fact is removing these rights does jack shit to help.
Feel good, schmeel good.
Fuck it. Since most of these weapons are purchased legally (at least in these high profile shootings) what the fuck? Timothy McVeigh can be reborn.
I still think advocating doing nothing is a win for the nutjobs and the gun lobbies. Yeah, they have your best interest at heart. Can the ‘gun culture’ that pervades this country be changed over time? Is it worth the effort? Can it work? 50 years ago, smoking was as common as breathing. Now? Much different. Prevailing sentiment can be changed. Not quickly and certainly not easily. Kinda like getting off the oil tit.
Awww, fuck it. Who am I kidding? It’s been fun. Well, except for NoFear. I’d figure he’d bring more to the table than semantics.
New thread is up.
I’ve made quite a few points on the subject Chuck. Worse than being ignorant you choose to remain ignorant.
I have kids and I have grandkids. Grandkids that are currently serivng in the military, too. I’ve been caring about kids, more than just mine, too, since you were barely one. So that “nothing at stake” attempt at a slight is as much bullshit as the rest of your idiotic regurgitation of liberal wacko talking points.
All the gun laws and bans on the books didn’t do shit to save one kid at Sandy Hook school. But you, in your brilliant enlightenment, think that more will do the trick. What’s worse is that to your thinking everyone not on board with your insanity doesn’t care about the kids.
Who put it in your head that taking away guns from law-abiding citizens will stop the mentally defective from doing bad things? That’s the guy, or group, or party, that you should have your issue with.